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  • Heatdreamer wrote: View Post
    Budweiser walked away ?
    Nop, but they have issued strong statement criticizing NFL.

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    • More on the Rice incident, completely conflicting with what Goodell is saying.

      "Outside the Lines" interviewed more than 20 sources over the past 11 days -- team officials, current and former league officials, NFL Players Association representatives and associates, advisers and friends of Rice -- and found a pattern of misinformation and misdirection employed by the Ravens and the NFL since that February night.
      Goodell has been steadfast that no one in the NFL had seen the inside-elevator video until Sept. 8, the same day the public did. Both the team and the league presumably had a copy of the police report: Ray and Janay were arrested shortly before 3 a.m. on Feb. 15 and charged with simple assault. Rice was accused of "assault by attempting to cause bodily injury to J. Palmer, specifically by striking her with his hand, rendering her unconscious, at the Revel Casino," the police report says. (Janay's charges would later be dropped.)

      But within hours of the elevator attack, an employee of the Ravens was describing the inside-elevator video to friends in graphic detail, telling confidants that Rice knocked out his then-fiancée with a punch and that the video was "really bad," according to a source close to a Ravens official.

      The day after the incident in Atlantic City, Rice met Kyle Jakobe, his personal trainer and one of his closest friends, at Jakobe's gym, Sweat Performance, in Timonium, Maryland. In Jakobe's office, Rice wept as he described what happened between him and his future wife. "I'm holding him, he's crying, he's devastated," Jakobe said. According to Jakobe, Rice didn't sugarcoat what happened. The running back told his friend much of what we now know: Rice struck Janay in the face with his left fist and sent her careening into the elevator wall, where she struck her head and was knocked out instantly. "He motioned it to me," Jakobe said, making a closed fist and bringing it across his body. "He was like 'Hey, this is what happened.'"

      Rice also leveled with his general manager, Newsome, who had a Hall of Fame career as a tight end with the Cleveland Browns. Rice sat down with Harbaugh, as well, and Harbaugh later described their conversation in a June interview with ESPN The Magazine. "I talked to Ray right away," Harbaugh said, "and what he told me right away -- we always tell our guys, 'Never lie, never cheat, never steal' -- he told me the exact truth of what happened, and it held up all the way through. He didn't sugarcoat it, he admitted what he did wrong, he explained everything to a T. Everything I've heard since then is held up to what he said."
      Does this sound like a guy who would lie to anyone?

      Rice spent most of his time working out at Sweat Performance, a gym regularly frequented by Ravens football players, their wives and girlfriends, and up-and-coming high school and college football players. One afternoon in mid-April, Rice and Jakobe finished a workout just as a group of 15 high school football players entered the gym to begin their own grueling training session. Rice asked the players to form a semicircle around him, then he began talking. The speech lasted only a few minutes, but right away, Rice began to cry as he tried to get the words out. He put his arms around the nearest boys, several of whom were now crying, as well, and the semicircle closed in to become more like a football huddle. I made a huge mistake. I hit my wife, and I'm so sorry. But I want to tell you, please don't focus on trying to be the kind of man I was. Focus on being a better man than I was.
      http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...er-goodell-nfl

      MAYBE the reason all of this is exploding now, is because when smaller incidents happen Goodell sweeps it under the rug -- empowering some of these guys, and not helping those (like Rice) that want help. Rice sounds like a guy who wants help, but thanks to Goodell, he's been painted not only as an abusive partner (which he is) but also as a deceptive liar. I'm not saying Rice is even a nice person, but if this is all true, he's not a liar either.

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      • What is becoming obvious from the OTL piece is another level of just odious behaviour by the NHL & the Ravens who turned on Rice and have thrown him under the bus (and then backed up on him) when stuff started blowing up around them (TMZ release of the second vid which they knew about but denied they did). The NFL/Ravens worked together on this and just wanted the incident to go away and now they are setting up committees to create new policies about violence. Hah. With mo like this...does anyone now believe the NFL have been doing everything possible to avoid head injuries?

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        • The more I see stories about all this, the less I am beginning to care.

          I watch NFL for the games, not the judiciary systems they implement. So while any lies or coverups are bad, I don't think I care anymore. I honestly feel that too many people put organizations on moral platforms just so they can tear them down.
          Heir, Prince of Cambridge

          If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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          • They arrrr back!

            Hans & Franz....pumping you up!...and still hilarious


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            • lol Seahawks fans are obsessed with gloves

              Demaryius finally woke up.

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              • Dolphins gonna win their division, I'm calling it.
                The name's Bond, James Bond.

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                • nah
                  @sweatpantsjer

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                  • 007 wrote: View Post
                    Dolphins gonna win their division, I'm calling it.
                    You would get good odds.
                    Rebuilt Offensive Line.. what . 5 new guys ? ...
                    A 3rd year quarter back and the coach is already checking to see the trajectory of the bus he is going to throw him under
                    #1 Running back hurt.
                    Defense is supect...

                    Dolphins go 7 up and 9 down.. finish 3rd in the AFC East.
                    There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
                    - TGO

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                    • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
                      You would get good odds.
                      Rebuilt Offensive Line.. what . 5 new guys ? ...
                      A 3rd year quarter back and the coach is already checking to see the trajectory of the bus he is going to throw him under
                      #1 Running back hurt.
                      Defense is supect...

                      Dolphins go 7 up and 9 down.. finish 3rd in the AFC East.
                      The head coach seems suspect to me beginning last year with gay player threats/issues and him seemingly unaware of problems in the locker room...more like him having willful blinders on. And as you pointed out he continues to be suspect. Some asst coaches are meant to be just that.

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                      • I always say the Dolphins are going to win, just because they're logo is awesome.
                        The name's Bond, James Bond.

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                        • Cowboys' offensive line is killing Saints. Terrible, terrible defense.. Embarrassing.

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                            • he deleted that and said he didn't know what he was talking about

                              pretty bad black eye for the AP

                              he really needs to go though
                              @sweatpantsjer

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                              • ceez wrote: View Post
                                he deleted that and said he didn't know what he was talking about

                                pretty bad black eye for the AP

                                he really needs to go though
                                Looks like this AP guy was right all along. Dennis Allen has been fired.

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