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I've been thinking about trade scenarios regarding Calderon and Barbosa a lot.... I mean a lot. Like when my wife asks, "What are you thinking about?" as I drift off in to space and I say, "Uh, nothing?" I'm thinking about trading Calderon and Barbosa.
I think this might be my definitive final answer to trading them both with an eye to the future with cap space, financial flexibility, and acquiring assets.
Two trades would be required to make it work and would have to happen after March 1st with the Lakers clearly out of the running for Dwight Howard:
Trade 1: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=77jeyw4
ATL: Barbosa, Gray
TOR: Morris, 2012 1st round pick from the Hawks or 2 2012 2nd round picks from the Hawks (ATL & PHX)
LAL: Kirk Hinrich
Trade 2: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3o2ugv4
LAL: Calderon
TOR: Hinrich, 2012 1st round pick from LAL (one of DAL or LAL)
The second trade on the trade machine link has Atlanta but that is to only show that the trade does satisfy the number requirements of the CBA. Essentially, the Lakers immediately send Hinrich to Toronto for Calderon. Remember individual players can be traded on their own an infinite number of times which is why Q. Richardson was traded 5 or 6 times in the summer of 2010.
Both trades combined (i.e. looking at the final result) would look like this:
ATL: Barbosa, Gray
LAL: Calderon
TOR: Morris, Hinrich, 1st round pick or 2 2nd round picks from Hawks in 2012, 1st round pick from Lakers in 2012
Why would teams do this?
Atlanta gets a Jamal Crawford replacement. They are thin on C's (Horford injury and Collins leaves them with just Pachulia) and Gray has shown he can play productive minutes. Both are expiring contracts so it leaves the Hawks with flexibility moving forward.
The Lakers get a solution to their biggest problem: no PG. It only helps that his presence might help Pau Gasol's play due to the history.
Toronto gets financial flexibility, a young prospect at PG with great size and known as a 'pass first' PG. Here is what DraftExpress.com had to say about him last year leading in to the draft:
The increased cap space would allow the Raptors to entertain the idea of signing Wilson Chandler. Also, the addition of multiple draft picks come draft night (2 or 3 first round picks and 1 or 3 second round picks) and a roster with a starting SG/SF in Wilson Chandler would allow the Raptors to entertain the idea of including other assets (WC, DeMar, ED, Amir, JJ, own draft pick) in a package to acquire a true difference maker. Then, come the off season, I would be looking to re-sign both Barbosa and Gray as they are both UFA's this summer.
Personally, I really like the above. It is never easy to let go of players who have been on your team for a long time but, at the end of the day, there has not been a lot of success with those pieces during their time in Toronto.
I think this might be my definitive final answer to trading them both with an eye to the future with cap space, financial flexibility, and acquiring assets.
Two trades would be required to make it work and would have to happen after March 1st with the Lakers clearly out of the running for Dwight Howard:
Trade 1: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=77jeyw4
ATL: Barbosa, Gray
TOR: Morris, 2012 1st round pick from the Hawks or 2 2012 2nd round picks from the Hawks (ATL & PHX)
LAL: Kirk Hinrich
Trade 2: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3o2ugv4
LAL: Calderon
TOR: Hinrich, 2012 1st round pick from LAL (one of DAL or LAL)
The second trade on the trade machine link has Atlanta but that is to only show that the trade does satisfy the number requirements of the CBA. Essentially, the Lakers immediately send Hinrich to Toronto for Calderon. Remember individual players can be traded on their own an infinite number of times which is why Q. Richardson was traded 5 or 6 times in the summer of 2010.
Both trades combined (i.e. looking at the final result) would look like this:
ATL: Barbosa, Gray
LAL: Calderon
TOR: Morris, Hinrich, 1st round pick or 2 2nd round picks from Hawks in 2012, 1st round pick from Lakers in 2012
Why would teams do this?
Atlanta gets a Jamal Crawford replacement. They are thin on C's (Horford injury and Collins leaves them with just Pachulia) and Gray has shown he can play productive minutes. Both are expiring contracts so it leaves the Hawks with flexibility moving forward.
The Lakers get a solution to their biggest problem: no PG. It only helps that his presence might help Pau Gasol's play due to the history.
Toronto gets financial flexibility, a young prospect at PG with great size and known as a 'pass first' PG. Here is what DraftExpress.com had to say about him last year leading in to the draft:
The increased cap space would allow the Raptors to entertain the idea of signing Wilson Chandler. Also, the addition of multiple draft picks come draft night (2 or 3 first round picks and 1 or 3 second round picks) and a roster with a starting SG/SF in Wilson Chandler would allow the Raptors to entertain the idea of including other assets (WC, DeMar, ED, Amir, JJ, own draft pick) in a package to acquire a true difference maker. Then, come the off season, I would be looking to re-sign both Barbosa and Gray as they are both UFA's this summer.
Personally, I really like the above. It is never easy to let go of players who have been on your team for a long time but, at the end of the day, there has not been a lot of success with those pieces during their time in Toronto.
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