Ebola Outbreak 2014 - Contagion?

[RandomGuy]

Spanish flu killed 100 million and we've not progressed that much in the past 100 years to suggest we could have done much better now if Spanish flu hit again.

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Well Spanish flu spread more easily, as it was easier to spread through air. It was influenced by war as well, as many victims of it were soldiers, with poor conditions and weak immune system. I'm not saying that I disagree with you, I do agree to some extent, but I also do believe that we are exaggerating this whole thing. I mean, do you guys know the living conditions in Sierra Leone? No wonder it spreads so easily, because sanitation is non existant there or at least, was.

[Apollo]

Doesn't explain how the doctors are getting while wearing head to toe PPE. The WHO can't explain it.

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[Bendit]

Doesn't explain how the doctors are getting while wearing head to toe PPE. The WHO can't explain it.

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Each individual case of doctor/worker infection needs to be looked at independently to check the protection flaw.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/...ugust-2014/en/

[Apollo]

For something that's reported as difficult to transmit, doesn't it seem odd that highly intelligent individuals, seemingly in full protection and taking other measures were infected?

The guy who died today in Texas caught it while escorting an infected pregnant lady to the hospital.

Then there are the reports from the University of Minnesota who suggest you can catch this in the air.

Edit: Article on how to handle the bodies in case you're interested in how they do that safely.

http://news.yahoo.com/feds-publish-g...170101294.html

Theyre not going to take anything for granted.

It also mentions the death tole as approx 3,400 in West Africa now.

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[Apollo]

So one of the police who entered the Dallas Ebola victims apartment may now have Ebola.

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2...c-duncan.html/

They think the risk of it is low.


CDC says death toll is now at approx 4,000; the worst ever on record.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...41008?irpc=932

No end in sight...


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[rocwell]

just received a text from my GP. It says that if I suspect I have ebola, I should call them rather than risk spreading the virus by walking into a GP practice.

[rocwell]

Experts now fear that ISIS scum will turn themselves into ebola suicide bombs.

World is scary place.

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Challenge posed by Ebola outbreak unlike anything since emergence of HIV/Aids, top US medical official says

[Bendit]

Experts now fear that ISIS scum will turn themselves into ebola suicide bombs.

World is scary place.

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Good grief! Sometimes I wonder if these fucking "experts" are really the problem....and the news orgs. that feed off them to fill their news cycles.

I guess Liberia/Sierra Leone better watch out for an influx of Middle eastern lookers arriving to get all diseased up!! If mass panic in the west were the aim one doesn't need Ebola to eg. poison a water or food delivery system.

[Bendit]

Deaths comparison to the AIDS pandemic

This too had its origins in Africa and led to much panic thoughts....I dont want to particularly minimize that there should be concern for this outbreak but it doesnt come close to the numbers of deaths resulting from AIDS. There wasnt a cure there either at the outset.

Number of deaths due to HIV/AIDS

Situation and trends

The annual number of people dying from AIDS-related causes worldwide is steadily decreasing from a peak of 2.3 million [2.1–2.6 million] in 2005 to an estimated 1.6 million [1.4–1.9 million] in 2012. AIDS-related mortality began to decline in 2004-2005 in sub-Saharan Africa, South and South-East Asia and the Caribbean and has continued to decline subsequently.

Two signal developments have caused this decline: first, the increased availability of antiretroviral therapy, as well as care and support to people living with HIV, especially in sub-Saharan Africa; and second, fewer people newly infected with HIV since the peak in 1997. The effects of antiretroviral therapy are especially evident in sub-Saharan Africa, where number of people dying from AIDS-related causes in sub-Saharan Africa declined by over 50% from 2004 to 2012, although the region still accounted for 73% of all the people dying from AIDS in 2012.

http://www.who.int/gho/hiv/epidemic_...eaths_text/en/

[rocwell]

Spanish Ebola patient said she learnt she had Ebola from the media. wow.

[Apollo]

So there may be other US cases of Ebola:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2554588

Here we go...

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[007]

Spanish Ebola patient said she learnt she had Ebola from the media. wow.

How the fuck is that possible?

[rocwell]

How the fuck is that possible?

http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/10...eoId=346507311

[Apollo]

This too had its origins in Africa and led to much panic thoughts....I dont want to particularly minimize that there should be concern for this outbreak but it doesnt come close to the numbers of deaths resulting from AIDS. There wasnt a cure there either at the outset.




http://www.who.int/gho/hiv/epidemic_...eaths_text/en/

You can't get AIDs by touching a door knob and then not washing your hands before you say... Rub your eyes, pick something out of your teeth, maul an apple and then bite in.

I don't think you can catch AIDs from someone sneezing or coughing in your face or down the hallway or somewhere else on an airplane.

I get the point, I just think Ebola is far more deadly than AIDs and more easily caught. People paniced from AIDs due to ignorance because there wasn't a lot of information out there or means to get it (no Internet in the 80's like we have now).

Ebola has been around for a long time. People are educated on what it is, what it does and how you can catch it. This is different. This isn't panic due to ignorance, this is panic due to knowledge.

[Bendit]

You can't get AIDs by touching a door knob and then not washing your hands before you say... Rub your eyes, pick something out of your teeth, maul an apple and then bite in.

I don't think you can catch AIDs from someone sneezing or coughing in your face or down the hallway or somewhere else on an airplane.

I get the point, I just think Ebola is far more deadly than AIDs and more easily caught. People paniced from AIDs due to ignorance because there wasn't a lot of information out there or means to get it (no Internet in the 80's like we have now).

Ebola has been around for a long time. People are educated on what it is, what it does and how you can catch it. This is different. This isn't panic due to ignorance, this is panic due to knowledge.

2nd Bold: I assume you meant "AIDS" here.

The point I was trying to convey was that then (AIDS), as now, we did not know fully how insidious each of these viruses were/are for some time. We should all remember the Magic Johnson case. As AIDS, Ebola is here to stay. A link I provided shocked me frankly that AIDS still in 2014 accounts for hundreds of thousand deaths each year worldwide. Dont see much panic there. Maybe it has something to do with probably nearly 75% of the fatalities occurring in Africa. My other point is that as with AIDS the medical community will find out exactly how Ebola is transmitted and hopefully a mass produced vaccine/cure quickly.

1st Bold: I keep seeing such an assertion quite often. Yet you must agree that the CDC is as informed a source as any on matters like this or pandemics in general. In part, they say:

Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, by food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats. There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys, and apes) have shown the ability to become infected with and spread Ebola virus.

See: http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/

I suppose my only message with my posts here is to be wary about the information we consume on this subject. As you know news outlets recently are in a competition for sensational sounding news in the neverending quest for eyeballs. And its still early days in the battle now that the West is engaged.