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  • I didn't say American bombings. I said American weaponry. The only reason ISIS is a legitimate threat to Syrian sovereignty right now is because they have high tech American weaponry they stole from various places. Without that it is my understanding that Syria probably wouldn't need or want all these foreign forces in their land.

    Personally if it were me, I'd want to escape all forms of violence. It's not just one thing, it's all out war there. As hypothetically escaped I would thank my lucky stars that some nation was kind enough to take me in.

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    • Let's just hope we done our homework and these refugees have no hidden agenda.

      Welcome to Canada.

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      • At the end of the day if you do the right things for the right reasons you should find a positive outcome.

        Part of the right things is proper and thurough screening. Part of the right things is not forgetting about these people after they're scattered throughout the nation. Part of the right things is educating these people about Canada's history and culture and their new provinces history and culture. Part of these things is placing these people in locations where the can find work and if need be get the proper education to support the country rather than live off of it. There was no doubt a lot of work to get them here but this is only the beginning. Security, a plan to help the refugees find success and then the leaders and resources to carry out the work is vital.

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        • Apollo wrote: View Post
          I didn't say American bombings. I said American weaponry. The only reason ISIS is a legitimate threat to Syrian sovereignty right now is because they have high tech American weaponry they stole from various places. Without that it is my understanding that Syria probably wouldn't need or want all these foreign forces in their land.

          Personally if it were me, I'd want to escape all forms of violence. It's not just one thing, it's all out war there. As hypothetically escaped I would thank my lucky stars that some nation was kind enough to take me in.
          The American weaponry you are correct about, the states were running guns through Lybia that ended up in the hands of Isis. Old Hillary has so much blood on her hands.

          I understand refugees leaving war for a better life. The problem is, this is the first time the world has experienced a refugee crisis that is being infiltrated by terrorists. The old way of doing things don't apply.
          Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
          Because its 2015

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          • Not helping is not the way . I don't care if there's a boogeyman that people are scared of. Canada needs to perform proper checks and have proper security. That's the answer, filter and remove potential threats along with proper monitoring.

            Closing the door and ignoring calls for help is not what Canada is about. If it was it then this place would look a whole lot different.

            This whole thing may cause issues and if that's the case it's because people didn't do their jobs in protecting Canada. If they want to get you though, they'll get you eventually. Look at 911 for example. That said, if you change what you are because of fear then the terrorists are winning.

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            • Apollo wrote: View Post
              Not helping is not the way . I don't care if there's a boogeyman that people are scared of. Canada needs to perform proper checks and have proper security. That's the answer, filter and remove potential threats along with proper monitoring.

              Closing the door and ignoring calls for help is not what Canada is about. If it was it then this place would look a whole lot different.

              This whole thing may cause issues and if that's the case it's because people didn't do their jobs in protecting Canada. If they want to get you though, they'll get you eventually. Look at 911 for example. That said, if you change what you are because of fear then the terrorists are winning.
              I like your thinking.

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              • Apollo wrote: View Post
                Not helping is not the way . I don't care if there's a boogeyman that people are scared of. Canada needs to perform proper checks and have proper security. That's the answer, filter and remove potential threats along with proper monitoring.

                Closing the door and ignoring calls for help is not what Canada is about. If it was it then this place would look a whole lot different.

                This whole thing may cause issues and if that's the case it's because people didn't do their jobs in protecting Canada. If they want to get you though, they'll get you eventually. Look at 911 for example. That said, if you change what you are because of fear then the terrorists are winning.
                Ya, there seems to be this false sense of security that no refugees = no bad things will happen. But we're more likely to die in a car crash on our way home from work, than of a terrorist attack.

                And even if we restrict the discussion to terrorism only, there is nothing preventing random Canadians from being "radicalized". Sometimes, shit happens for no apparent reason. Stranding 100,000 refugees at the door is not going to change that.

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                • Nilanka wrote: View Post
                  Ya, there seems to be this false sense of security that no refugees = no bad things will happen. But we're more likely to die in a car crash on our way home from work, than of a terrorist attack.

                  And even if we restrict the discussion to terrorism only, there is nothing preventing random Canadians from being "radicalized". Sometimes, shit happens for no apparent reason. Stranding 100,000 refugees at the door is not going to change that.
                  True.

                  As well, some of those refugees may assist agencies (with lang. and knowledge skills) to unearth and assist with any further conflict or assistance given that part of the world. Consider them an asset.

                  The following piece makes the case for....

                  http://www.wired.com/2015/11/turning...make-it-worse/

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                  • NYT Editorial

                    Others take notice.


                    The Opinion Pages | EDITORIAL

                    Canada’s Warm Embrace of Refugees

                    By THE EDITORIAL BOARD DEC. 11, 2015


                    Many of the indelible images of the Middle East refugee crisis this year are haunting. There was the heart wrenching photo of Aylan Kurdi, a lifeless 3-year-old boy who drowned at sea and washed up ashore on a beach in Turkey in early September. A photographer in Greece captured the moment Laith Majid, an Iraqi refugee, walked off a deflating boat in Greece in tears, tightly clutching his son and daughter. And it’s hard to forget the spiteful Hungarian journalist who tripped a Syrian refugee carrying a child, making them stumble.

                    The simple but powerful words with which Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada greeted the first group of Syrians resettled under an expedited program stood in sharp contrast to the misery and monumental injustice the earlier images represent.

                    “You are home,” he said when the refugees disembarked in Toronto on Thursday after a 16-hour flight from Beirut. To a man holding a toddler wearing a headband with flowers, he repeated the sentiment: “Welcome to your new home.”

                    With his sleeves rolled up, Mr. Trudeau helped the man try on winter coats until he found one that fit. In return, the Syrian man thanked the prime minister “for all this hospitality and this warm welcome,” and said the Canadian government had made him and his fellow refugees feel “highly respected” as they applied to be settled.

                    Until Mr. Trudeau’s election, the Canadian government had been among Western countries that had responded to the refugee crisis with more apprehension than compassion. Mr. Trudeau changed that by ordering his government to admit 10,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year and at least 25,000 by the end of March.

                    “We get to show the world how to open our hearts and welcome in people who are fleeing extraordinarily difficult situations,” Mr. Trudeau said during a brief speech at the airport, where the refugees had arrived on a Canadian military plane. “Tonight they step off the plane as refugees, but they walk out of this terminal as permanent residents of Canada.”

                    Canada’s resettlement program is small compared with the magnitude of a crisis that will take years to solve. The United Nations estimates that roughly nine million Syrians have been displaced by war since 2011, a number that can only rise as fighting in Syria continues unabated.

                    Yet Canada’s generosity — and Mr. Trudeau’s personal warmth and leadership — can serve as a beacon for others. In the meantime, it puts to shame the callous and irresponsible behavior of the American governors and presidential candidates who have argued that the United States, for the sake of its security, must shut its doors to all Syrian refugees.

                    The prime minister made no direct mention of Canada’s southern neighbor in his speech on Thursday. Yet he spoke unmistakably to a broader audience when he said: “This is something that we are able to do in this country because we define a Canadian not by a skin color or a language or a religion or a background, but by a shared set of values, aspirations, hopes and dreams that not just Canadians but people around the world share.”
                    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/12/op...ol-left-region

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