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  • Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    Yeah he shouldn't be very much, he's really underground and gets noooo burn in Memphis. And anything is better than chuck Hayes lol
    I was never that impressed with Davis as a Raptor, and the fact that he is getting no burn in Memphis doesn't encourage me to think he could be a back-up center, or start (Really! Start?) in place of Amir. Replace Chuck Hayes in the roster, I'nm all for it, but I believe Chuck has another year left on his contract with the raps. Good luck trading him unless it is as salary filler in a trade.

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    • If the team stays basically intact...as in, if Lowry, Vasquez and Pat are all brought back

      Guards: Udrih, Ridnour, Patty Mills
      Wings: Aminu, Battier, Ariza, Carter, Meeks, CJ Miles
      Bigs: Okafor, Brand, Ayon, Ryan Hollins

      Basically a hopefully capable 3rd PG....
      Hopefully a SF with size and a wing who can shoot/score...
      And an upgrade at backup C if possible. If Okafor is healthy, but also comes at a bargain because of his injury issues this year, that'd be perfect. Brand I fear might be a bit too ripe. Ayon and Hollins both bring a little bit to the table, but aren't big difference makers, though Ayon has a decent touch.

      If our roster is not kept intact, but Lowry stays at least:

      PGs: Blake, Livingston....and then Udrih, Ridnour, Mills
      Wings: the same as above....we need 4 solid enough wings, so we need 2 guys behind DeMar and Ross
      Bigs: Davis? Humphries? McRoberts if he opts out (but then he'll probably want a raise over the 2+ million he'd be making)? Diaw? I hope they can re-sign 2Pat....Cs the same ->Okafor, Brand, Ayon, Hollins

      Basically we'd need a quality backup to replace Vasquez at PG and a 3rd PG....
      Wing position stays the same....I think I'd basically like Carter or Meeks, plus any of the other 4.
      Bigs are tough. We'd need a PF to replace 2Pat. We can just roll with Hansbrough for another year as the primary backup, but it'd be nice to have a guy with some shooting touch. McRoberts or Diaw might fit nicely, though neither might really be available (figure if Diaw's going to play at a near-minimum salary, he'll probably stay with the Spurs)

      If Lowry leaves, I see the situation being pretty much the same as above, because if he does go they probably will keep Vasquez.

      *EDIT: and the basic strategy stays the same across the board no matter what. Not the time to blow extra cash. Just get as many of these guys (or similar options) as possible at as low a cost as possible. If we need a new 2nd PG, that might cost a bit (a decent chunk of MLE), but otherwise I wouldn't want to spend more than between minimum value and about $2.5M on any other guys.
      Last edited by white men can't jump; Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:35 PM.

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      • Puffer wrote: View Post
        I was never that impressed with Davis as a Raptor, and the fact that he is getting no burn in Memphis doesn't encourage me to think he could be a back-up center, or start (Really! Start?) in place of Amir. Replace Chuck Hayes in the roster, I'nm all for it, but I believe Chuck has another year left on his contract with the raps. Good luck trading him unless it is as salary filler in a trade.
        I recall that last year when Davis was traded for gay. Everybody was Shitting their pants about how good he was and how we shouldn't have traded him. There was serious debate with people putting Davis over Johnson last year.

        And the only reason he doesn't play in me his is because of zbo and gasoline just clogging errrrrrrting up
        I'm back. I no longer worship joe johnson

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        • Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
          I recall that last year when Davis was traded for gay. Everybody was Shitting their pants about how good he was and how we shouldn't have traded him. There was serious debate with people putting Davis over Johnson last year.

          And the only reason he doesn't play in me his is because of zbo and gasoline just clogging errrrrrrting up
          The reason I was shitting my pants is because we used him to trade for Gay...who I've never liked and was very upset that such a move was made at all.

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          • Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
            I recall that last year when Davis was traded for gay. Everybody was Shitting their pants about how good he was and how we shouldn't have traded him. There was serious debate with people putting Davis over Johnson last year.

            And the only reason he doesn't play in me his is because of zbo and gasoline just clogging errrrrrrting up
            If we kept Davis he would most likely became the starter on this team because he provides a better offense punch than Amir but Amir is miles ahead of him in terms of defense

            Remember this

            "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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            • CJ Miles

              Definitely CJ Miles. Really like what he can do. Plays hard D, has a tight handle and can really stroke the three, although can be streaky.

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              • MACK11 wrote: View Post
                If we kept Davis he would most likely became the starter on this team because he provides a better offense punch than Amir but Amir is miles ahead of him in terms of defense

                Remember this

                So basically what your saying is that if Ed were to be brought back, he could potentially start. And wouldn't it be funny if we got him. We would then have had everybody involved in the rudy gay deal to suit up for Toronto. All except for prince that is. Lmao
                I'm back. I no longer worship joe johnson

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                • Vince Carterrrrrrrrrrrrr put up 23 points tonight he still got it i want him back!!! emeka okafor, and draft tyler ennis!!!! (canadian!!)

                  valanciunas/okafor/hayes
                  johnson/patterson/hansbrough
                  ross/carter/novak
                  derozan/de colo/fields
                  lowry/vasquez/ennis

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                  • charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
                    Vince Carterrrrrrrrrrrrr put up 23 points tonight he still got it i want him back!!! emeka okafor, and draft tyler ennis!!!! (canadian!!)

                    valanciunas/okafor/hayes
                    johnson/patterson/hansbrough
                    ross/carter/novak
                    derozan/de colo/fields
                    lowry/vasquez/ennis
                    Wouldn't mind that lineup to be honest. However, I'd drop De Colo, since he seems to be relatively useless, and change it to something like this:

                    Valanciunas/Okafor/Hayes
                    Johnson/Patterson/Handsbrough
                    Ross/Carter/Novak
                    Derozan/Mills/Fields
                    Lowry/Vasquez/Ennis

                    That's not a bad second unit to be honest. Okafor, from what I remember, plays some pretty good D. With Patterson/Carter/Mills/Vasquez to carry the starting load of the second unit, I think they would be relatively set there.

                    I mean, if we could obviously somehow move Hayes/Novak/Fields, that would be absolutely STUNNING. Ayon/Ridnour/Meeks would be stunning to pickup over them. However,

                    As for Ennis, I haven't paid too much attention to the 2014 Draft, but, I'd just draft the BPA. Fill the positions regardless with people that fit into the System, and just take the BPA and evaluate afterwards.

                    I would stretch-provision Fields, because I highly doubt MU will give away an asset just to get rid of him. I mean, at the point, if he ends up being anything good, he's "cheap", if not, then he's just a roster spot.

                    I feel like Novak could still be moved. He's a specialist for 3.5/3.75 in 2014/2015.

                    Hayes, I believe we're stuck with to be honest, but at least he's a big body, and with a quality backup C, we won't have to see him much, lol.

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                    • phiLLy wrote: View Post
                      Wouldn't mind that lineup to be honest. However, I'd drop De Colo, since he seems to be relatively useless, and change it to something like this:

                      Valanciunas/Okafor/Hayes
                      Johnson/Patterson/Handsbrough
                      Ross/Carter/Novak
                      Derozan/Mills/Fields
                      Lowry/Vasquez/Ennis

                      That's not a bad second unit to be honest. Okafor, from what I remember, plays some pretty good D. With Patterson/Carter/Mills/Vasquez to carry the starting load of the second unit, I think they would be relatively set there.

                      I mean, if we could obviously somehow move Hayes/Novak/Fields, that would be absolutely STUNNING. Ayon/Ridnour/Meeks would be stunning to pickup over them. However,

                      As for Ennis, I haven't paid too much attention to the 2014 Draft, but, I'd just draft the BPA. Fill the positions regardless with people that fit into the System, and just take the BPA and evaluate afterwards.

                      I would stretch-provision Fields, because I highly doubt MU will give away an asset just to get rid of him. I mean, at the point, if he ends up being anything good, he's "cheap", if not, then he's just a roster spot.

                      I feel like Novak could still be moved. He's a specialist for 3.5/3.75 in 2014/2015.

                      Hayes, I believe we're stuck with to be honest, but at least he's a big body, and with a quality backup C, we won't have to see him much, lol.
                      No point to stretch him if the goal is to just sign some bench players. Stretching would clutter cap space for the next 2 years. It's an option if someone serious wants to sign.

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                      • BobLoblaw wrote: View Post
                        No point to stretch him if the goal is to just sign some bench players. Stretching would clutter cap space for the next 2 years. It's an option if someone serious wants to sign.
                        Exactly.

                        An extra $2.25M in free agency this summer is going to do diddly squat.

                        Keep him and free up $2.25M in each of the next 2 off seasons where it just might.

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                        • BobLoblaw wrote: View Post
                          No point to stretch him if the goal is to just sign some bench players. Stretching would clutter cap space for the next 2 years. It's an option if someone serious wants to sign.
                          Fair enough, that does make more sense to be honest. I was just thinking to stretch him, if it meant staying below the Salary Cap, so they don't pay repeater tax so soon when they're building a contender.

                          Truthfully, that team I listed above, maybe a second round exit in next season, it's not a team you want to be in the tax for to be honest. And then when players like lets say, Durant, are FAs, that's when you want to start dipping into the tax.

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                          • phiLLy wrote: View Post
                            Fair enough, that does make more sense to be honest. I was just thinking to stretch him, if it meant staying below the Salary Cap, so they don't pay repeater tax so soon when they're building a contender.

                            Truthfully, that team I listed above, maybe a second round exit in next season, it's not a team you want to be in the tax for to be honest. And then when players like lets say, Durant, are FAs, that's when you want to start dipping into the tax.
                            There are two caps: salary cap which will be at some 63ish mil next year, and tax line which will be at 74-75 mil (exact numbers not known yet). The salary cap just means that it's harder to trade or sign players when you cross it. The tax line is where you pay tax and repeater tax. The Raptors might get over the salary cap next year but they won't get to the tax line, unless they make some major deal.

                            Still, the stretch provision is something to keep in mind, if some star type player gets interested this summer.

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                            • VC.
                              Mamba Mentality

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                              • After we win the NBA championship this year!

                                I'm sure LeBron, KD will be calling Masai for a spot on the Raptors dynasty
                                "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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