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  • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    Clips have to pull a raps and put Kawhi on Luka every single possession. Problem is Luka is so much more of a problem then Giannis. Clips might be fucked, and kawhi could just walk away this summer.... uh oh
    Carlisle just goes pick and roll and you have to either switch or blitz cause otherwise Doncic shoots the three. As soon as that happens, Doncic is free of Kawhi or Leonard needs to recover which puts your defense in scramble mode on the fly and Luka just finds his shooters. Kawhi does a good job on Doncic but you are right this isn’t Giannis.

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    • slaw wrote: View Post

      Leonard lost Doncic on more than a couple plays. They are trying to confuse Luka but are only confusing themselves. Gotta be honest, Leonard doesn’t look that good to me. He’s scoring but he isn’t making the guys around him better. It’s not team basketball.

      And I love that Carlisle is going after Beverley. He’s getting killed out there and he’s still yammering away every possession. Shut the fuck up and do your job.
      Ya kawhi never has really had to guard a true ball handling guard all game, hes great against wing and big strong guys but its alot to ask anyone in the league to guard luka. To be honest kawhi never really made the guy around him better here either, we could just give him the ball when we needed scoring. But we had guy like fred, kyle, serge pascal would could bail out a broken possession or carry with team ball when he sat. Clips dont have that
      To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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      • iblastoff wrote: View Post

        to be honest that was the majority of the raptors kawhi season too. it was kawhi doing his thing and then there were the rest of the raptors.
        True. That team was unbelievable defensively though, whereas this LA team feels disjointed on both ends.

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        • iblastoff wrote: View Post
          to be honest that was the majority of the raptors kawhi season too. it was kawhi doing his thing and then there were the rest of the raptors.
          Yeah, but the Raptors could defend and score from every position, and Kawhi was a willing passer (and still is). The Clippers are just shitting the bed on multiple levels. It doesn't help that they have Ty Lue as their coach, who is the coach you get when the players don't particularly want to have a coach.

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          • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

            THJ and kleber are the x factor tn
            You called it berta...THJR was the x-factor of this game for the Mavs...Clips had none after an impressive performance by Kawhi and the usual average playoff game by PG as usual.

            back to Forthworth
            You cannot cancel me out dumb dumb, I will always be in that little nugget of yours camping like a mosquito https://forums.raptorsrepublic.com/c...ilies/wink.png

            When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers


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            • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

              History of Kawhi's backcourt teammates:

              Tony Parker
              Manu Ginobili
              Kyle Lowry

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              pat beverly
              2019 NBA Champions. Glad to have doubted the doubters.

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              • magoon wrote: View Post

                Yeah, but the Raptors could defend and score from every position, and Kawhi was a willing passer (and still is). The Clippers are just shitting the bed on multiple levels. It doesn't help that they have Ty Lue as their coach, who is the coach you get when the players don't particularly want to have a coach.
                Yeah, this Clippers roster has yet to show a next gear in the playoffs. They played well this season, but Dallas has elevated a notch here and LAC hasn't matched, other than Kawhi.

                But Dallas has been winning by narrow margins with incredible 3 pt shooting. Still some very winnable games here for LA.

                And no, Kawhi doesn't elevate his teams. He's been the final piece on two championship rosters that were very good without him and had great leadership from the coaching staff down to the bench. The Clippers definitely don't have that, they need Kawhi to be their Lebron and I don't think he can be.
                "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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                • What great news to wake up to. Clippers suck.
                  Kawhi went from playing with leaders as winners like Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Gasol, Lowry, Green, to....Pat Bev, a Morris brother and playoff P. I love it.
                  If they don’t get it together big changes are coming there. And they have no flexibility to make those changes at all. Love it .

                  Edit—Ibaka with 5 mins played. He should opt out. Someone will give him the MLE to be a center.
                  Last edited by Rudy Bargnani; Wed May 26, 2021, 09:29 AM.

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                  • slaw wrote: View Post

                    Carlisle just goes pick and roll and you have to either switch or blitz cause otherwise Doncic shoots the three. As soon as that happens, Doncic is free of Kawhi or Leonard needs to recover which puts your defense in scramble mode on the fly and Luka just finds his shooters. Kawhi does a good job on Doncic but you are right this isn’t Giannis.
                    he shouldn't have left

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                    • Good to see the Clippers lose again. Both games at home. I know it's not a normal season, but does anyone come back losing both games at home, and being down 0-2? Don't like their chances.

                      As for the Lakers.. just saw the first quarter, but yeah the Lakers looked like the better team. Gave it their all on defense, and found ways to score enough to win it. Read that Paul didn't come back in late in the game. So that's Chris Paul's story in a nutshell. Will help your team but won't be there when it matters because he'll eventually get hurt.


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                      • planetmars wrote: View Post
                        Good to see the Clippers lose again. Both games at home. I know it's not a normal season, but does anyone come back losing both games at home, and being down 0-2? Don't like their chances.

                        As for the Lakers.. just saw the first quarter, but yeah the Lakers looked like the better team. Gave it their all on defense, and found ways to score enough to win it. Read that Paul didn't come back in late in the game. So that's Chris Paul's story in a nutshell. Will help your team but won't be there when it matters because he'll eventually get hurt.

                        Still laugh thinking GM Kawhi could have had the Raptors, or could have just went their and had SGA, Gallinari, and about a thousand picks. Instead he hitched his wagon to PG13, Pat Beverley and no depth.

                        Masai might get back to a finals before Kawhi
                        It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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                        • KeonClark wrote: View Post

                          Still laugh thinking GM Kawhi could have had the Raptors, or could have just went their and had SGA, Gallinari, and about a thousand picks. Instead he hitched his wagon to PG13, Pat Beverley and no depth.

                          Masai might get back to a finals before Kawhi
                          The really interesting thing is that Kawhi really hasn't left himself too many options aside from sticking it out where he's at, at least in terms of success come playoff time. Not a lot of teams out there with cap flexibility for a max for him, even via the sign and trade route. And if he seriously entertains any offers from other teams, the rest of the Clippers locker room is going to be seriously upset. He mostly is stuck trying to make this work.

                          And if the Clippers not named Kawhi don't find an extra gear before the end of this series, or flame out in the next one, there are all sorts of questions about the roster, the team, and its management that need to be answered.

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                          • Personally I'm rooting for any slapped together, short-window 'super team' to lose. From a fan perspective, the process of team building is just a huge part of the journey. Watching guys grow together, try and fail in the playoffs, management try different pieces and try to pin down what works, this is all part of the process of being a fan of an actual team. The We The North era was great for that, even if it did include Lebronto and a final chapter of having to ship out some of the long term pieces for a couple win-now parts. I'm a fan of being a fan through that whole process.

                            Superstars playing for 5 or 6 teams during their careers and just bouncing around and overhauling rosters for 1 or 2 year windows though, I'm not really a fan of the product that creates. I get it from the player empowerment perspective, they've negotiated leverage and they're using it - good for them. I'd just much rather get to watch that 7 year run of Raptors ball than this 2 year window of Clippers ball. Something about going through the process with your team.
                            "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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                            • The Raptors Championship Roster was a solid defensive team. Nick Nurse fully maximize them their individual strengths. Kyle carried out that vision on the court.

                              I fully agree that Marc/ Danny and most especially Kawhi were the missing pieces to allow a Kyle Lowry led team to go over the hump.

                              Marc
                              Siakam
                              Kawhi
                              Green
                              Lowry

                              Serge
                              Powell
                              Van Vleet
                              OG (was injured)
                              Boucher

                              However even how the Raptors were potent defensively, a healthy Warriors roster may have change the outcome of Game 6 and potentially Game 7 of that series. But Raps winning all 4 games in Golden State in front of that raucous crowd was a feat.

                              Kyle Lowry was the maestro who elevated everyone else’s game. Having a very dynamic player who had a tempered approach of the game especially when all seems lost like Kawhi made it easier.

                              It was match made in heaven.
                              Last edited by The Claw Reborn; Wed May 26, 2021, 03:08 PM.
                              You cannot cancel me out dumb dumb, I will always be in that little nugget of yours camping like a mosquito https://forums.raptorsrepublic.com/c...ilies/wink.png

                              When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers


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                              • That Dallas arena is gonna be loud for Game 3

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