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S.R. wrote: View PostMy opinion - they are making the same mistakes Lebron teams always make a few years in, they just throw whatever players, too often one dimensional and too often name recognition guys who are past their prime, and everyone lazily thinks that everything will be alright because Lebron. Well at some point there is a tipping point where even Lebron + flawed roster is NOT better than the other top teams.
I called out the Korver trade when it was getting so much hype, the Cavs actually already had a bevy of shooters who couldn't defend and imho did not really need another one. Just think, they could actually put out an Irving/Korver/Lebron/Love/Frye lineup that could shoot tons of threes and would be AWFUL on defence. Too much "spacing!" "three point shooting!" oversimplified hype. Great teams have to play defence, period. The Cavs have had a middling defence at best all year and are even worse right now.
All that said - Lebron is still Lebron and gets the benefit of the doubt in the East until someone proves they can dethrone him. But this is the most flawed a Lebron team has looked late in the regular season in a long, long time.
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Can we give Casey and the coaching staff some credit now?
When Lowry got hurt, people were talking about the Raptors possibly falling behind Atlanta in the standings smh. It's like he's the only star player on the team.
Casey and the coaching staff made this thing work without Lowry. There's still a good chance we finish with 50 wins this season. That is amazing.Mamba Mentality
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Another thing that happened to cleveland is their mid season acquisitions have been flops for once. Unlike shumpert, Jr smith and Frye who fit in seamlessly in years past, korver is done and bogut played 4 seconds and shattered a leg. Deron williams..I dunno..
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HORNETS @ RAPTORS Wed March 29th 7:30pm SN1
Well...I guess you don't have to keep them under 90 if you score over 130. Couldn't have asked for much more. Got the full Terry experience (including a not-blown 360 degree dunk) and still a relatively easy win. I'll be happy to keep this pace as long as the team lets me. So let's welcome our next opponent. No...no overused Crying Jordan memes here. In the blue corner, hailing all the way from...
...The "maybe next year" Charlotte Hornets.
Out of the playoffs as they are, the Hornets have always been a thorn in the Raptors side. Technically, that should be a "stinger" but whatever. They are trying to fight their way back in having won 4 of 5. As much angst as they have given us, they also helped the Utah Utes coming out party just before the all star game (which wasn't in charlotte)
Here's a look at my best guess of the starting lineup..
(PG)
(SG)
(SF)(very practical...this will work even if the starter gets replaced by the backup)
(PF)
(C)
And, for your Toronto Raptors...
Joseph (PG)
Derozan (SG)
Tucker til i hear otherwise (SF)
Ibaka (PF)
Valanciunas (C)
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TRex wrote: View PostCan we give Casey and the coaching staff some credit now?
When Lowry got hurt, people were talking about the Raptors possibly falling behind Atlanta in the standings smh. It's like he's the only star player on the team.
Casey and the coaching staff made this thing work without Lowry. There's still a good chance we finish with 50 wins this season. That is amazing.
Oh, and not having to play Siakam again was probably worth about 5 pts a game, by itself. lol.
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golden wrote: View PostCredit where credit is due. We also need to note that the timing of Lowry going down was nothing short of impeccable with PJ & Serge coming in and Patterson and Wright returning to the lineup. The schedule has been pretty soft, but at the same time, you can only beat who they put in front of you. Kudos to Casey and staff. Bigger kudos to Masai for the trades, and a tip of the hat to continued good luck.
Oh, and not having to play Siakam again was probably worth about 5 pts a game, by itself. lol.
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S.R. wrote: View PostMy opinion - they are making the same mistakes Lebron teams always make a few years in, they just throw whatever players, too often one dimensional and too often name recognition guys who are past their prime, and everyone lazily thinks that everything will be alright because Lebron. Well at some point there is a tipping point where even Lebron + flawed roster is NOT better than the other top teams.
I called out the Korver trade when it was getting so much hype, the Cavs actually already had a bevy of shooters who couldn't defend and imho did not really need another one. Just think, they could actually put out an Irving/Korver/Lebron/Love/Frye lineup that could shoot tons of threes and would be AWFUL on defence. Too much "spacing!" "three point shooting!" oversimplified hype. Great teams have to play defence, period. The Cavs have had a middling defence at best all year and are even worse right now.
All that said - Lebron is still Lebron and gets the benefit of the doubt in the East until someone proves they can dethrone him. But this is the most flawed a Lebron team has looked late in the regular season in a long, long time.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostIn terms of personnel changes, don't forget Casey FINALLY benching Bebe's soft ass game(mentally and physically) for the better Poeltl, who brings consistent energy and a relatively high IQ game.
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It's been really interesting seeing other coaches game plan for DeMar with Lowry out, throwing hard double and even triple teams at him early. I still feel like, for whatever reason, Casey almost never does this."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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