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  • TRex wrote: View Post
    I also want to say, and i've been sayin this for months now: It's wrong that Harden is going to win the MVP this year. LeBron James is much more deserving.
    The NBA needs a better award program. The MVP is a regular season award. And Harden deserves that more than Lebron.. Had similar stats and a better team (best in the league).

    Lebron is by far the MVP of the playoffs.. even if they lose the finals. Yet they have a Finals MVP.. who gives a shit about the Finals MVP. They should have a Playoff MVP like the NHL has.

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    • planetmars wrote: View Post
      The NBA needs a better award program. The MVP is a regular season award. And Harden deserves that more than Lebron.. Had similar stats and a better team (best in the league).

      Lebron is by far the MVP of the playoffs.. even if they lose the finals. Yet they have a Finals MVP.. who gives a shit about the Finals MVP. They should have a Playoff MVP like the NHL has.
      Agreed it's dumb. Like in 2015 Andre Iguodala won it because of his finals, but they would have never been there without Steph Curry who should have been the playoff MVP
      9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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      • planetmars wrote: View Post
        The NBA needs a better award program. The MVP is a regular season award. And Harden deserves that more than Lebron.. Had similar stats and a better team (best in the league).

        Lebron is by far the MVP of the playoffs.. even if they lose the finals. Yet they have a Finals MVP.. who gives a shit about the Finals MVP. They should have a Playoff MVP like the NHL has.
        But even in the NHL, the Conn Smythe usually goes to the best player on the team who wins the cup.

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        • Nilanka wrote: View Post
          But even in the NHL, the Conn Smythe usually goes to the best player on the team who wins the cup.
          Over 4 rounds..nba rewards the best player for 25% of the tournament
          Last edited by KeonClark; Mon May 28, 2018, 02:25 PM.
          9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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          • golden wrote: View Post
            Yeah, I remember Kobe publicly blaming the GM for "making me play with guys like Smush Parker". Total douche move. And then there were the rumblings about wanting a trade if they didn't upgrade the roster... just before Kupchak pulled off the Pau Gasol trade. Not to mention, he gets to play for Phil Jackson, not Ty Lue. And then when he didn't show up in Game 7 for the last ring vs. the Celtics, his teammates picked him up. Not to mention the Kobe's 3 chips he had the most-dominant-ever player (Shaq)... who basically forced the NBA to change the rules. Putting Kobe top 15 might still be over-rated.
            You're going to say stuff like that but give LeBron a pass....complaini ng about teammates and demanding trade(s) was perfected by LeBron lol

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            • G__Deane wrote: View Post
              You're going to say stuff like that but give LeBron a pass....complaini ng about teammates and demanding trade(s) was perfected by LeBron lol
              LeBron has never demanded a trade. He also doesn't complain about teammates publicly.

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              • Nilanka wrote: View Post
                But even in the NHL, the Conn Smythe usually goes to the best player on the team who wins the cup.
                Usually but not always (Ron Hextall comes to mind).. and I think that would be the case in the NBA as well.

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                • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                  LeBron has never demanded a trade. He also doesn't complain about teammates publicly.

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                    • rocwell wrote: View Post

                      Love still hasn't fit in and the Cavs probably play better without him, tbh. Lebron is right about that one. But still that's not on the same level as publicly disparaging a teammate, even if it was the lowly Smush Parker.

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                      • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                        LeBron has never demanded a trade. He also doesn't complain about teammates publicly.
                        Demanding trades BE MADE. Playing GM, killing coaches....

                        And here's something funny for you to try:
                        Google "NBA throwing teammates under the bus" and go to "images"
                        The first 9 photos are of .... .... LeBron James
                        Yeah, he's not known for that at all

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                        • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                          LeBron has never demanded a trade. He also doesn't complain about teammates publicly.
                          It's OK if you think he's right doing it but don't you ever say he doesn't DO it

                          http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=15700700

                          http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/n...11n3172a1afr7p

                          LeBron James throws teammates under the bus by calling Cavs 'top-heavy'

                          Before the game, James said he wasn't worried about his team's recent struggles. But after the Cavs' fifth loss in seven games, James was extremely vocal about the team's problems.


                          After his initial locker-room chat with reporters, he apparently spoke to a smaller group of beat writers, where he unloaded on the team's problems.

                          "It's like when you don't have bodies. It's tough," James said, via ESPN's Dave McMenamin. "The f---ing grind of the regular season. We're a top-heavy team. We have a top-heavy team. We top-heavy as s---. It's me, [Kyrie Irving], [Kevin Love]. It's top-heavy."

                          The star player added, "We need a f---ing playmaker."

                          While James makes some good points (the Cavs do need more depth), it's a little insulting to the rest of the guys on the team who aren't Irving or Love. His comments are even a slap in the face to the front office for not going out and acquiring more talent

                          There's tons of headlines with one quick search:
                          LeBron James RIPS Cavaliers Teammates
                          LeBron built the Cavaliers roster and now is complaining about it ...
                          LeBron James throws teammates under the bus
                          It Ain't Easy Being LeBron James' Teammate
                          A Recent History of LeBron James Calling Out His Cavaliers Teammates

                          You want to retract yet?
                          Last edited by G__Deane; Mon May 28, 2018, 04:34 PM.

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                          • My top 10 ball players of all time:

                            1. MJ
                            2. LeBron
                            3. Wilt
                            4. Kareem
                            5. Russell
                            6. Magic
                            7. Bird
                            8. Olajuwon
                            9. Duncan
                            10. Kobe
                            Mamba Mentality

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                              • TRex wrote: View Post
                                My top 10 ball players of all time:

                                1. MJ
                                2. LeBron
                                3. Wilt
                                4. Kareem
                                5. Russell
                                6. Magic
                                7. Bird
                                8. Olajuwon
                                9. Duncan
                                10. Kobe
                                So, is Kobe in the GOAT discussion with MJ & Lebron?

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