NBA Playoffs! Round 2, Game 3: Toronto Raptors 103 - Cleveland Cavaliers 105 (CLE 3-0)

[tDotted]

Someone called it -- that missed free throw by Lowry at the end came back to haunt us.

How? We would've lost anyway

[S.R.]

[Maury]

Uh no. The useless minutes from DeRozan and the botched OOT play are what sunk us.

And the foul on serge, along with several fouls that broke our backs throughout the game. I was just about to say at least it wouldn’t impact the end of game but of course they call a foul on serge which fouls him out and sends Lebron to the line.

[tDotted]

ACTUALLY, it was the INEXCUSABLE reversed Ibaka dunk that robbed us of 3 points that cost us the game

[Mindlessness]

The thing with MJ is he didnt play one year in his extreme prime, which no doubt he would have won another ring and retired at 34, while still at peak for 3 years

After 3 years of not playing at 37, he wasnt going to be the same him

But think he gave up potentially 3 years+ of being the best... 3 years is a long time... he could have won one or two more championships...

That's not a "no doubt" ring lmao, Hakeem went god mode that season, they'd have no one to guard him either. It'd probably go 7 games.

Anyway, any of you read Backpicks' GOAT list, he's got some interesting arguments.

[sanyo]

Cant believe how bias Skip Bayless is against the Raps -- what a fucking prick!

[sanyo]

ACTUALLY, it was the INEXCUSABLE reversed Ibaka dunk that robbed us of 3 points that cost us the game

yep that too

[MixxAOR]

Cant believe how bias Skip Bayless is against the Raps -- what a fucking prick!

Skip is a bitch. Pity him

[Other Scott]

The thing with MJ is he didnt play nearly two years in his extreme prime, which no doubt he would have won another ring and retired at 34, while still at peak for 3 years

After 3 years of not playing at 37, he wasnt going to be the same him

But think he gave up potentially 3 years+ of being the best... 3 years is a long time... he could have won one or two more championships...

Yeah but you can't credit MJ for seasons he didn't play. 29 year old MJ was better than 29 year old Lebron. But Lebron has more seasons in the book at this extremely high level, and it's close enough in terms of skill once you take defense and playmaking into account that it might give him the edge.

[KHD]

ACTUALLY, it was the INEXCUSABLE reversed Ibaka dunk that robbed us of 3 points that cost us the game

Jordan Clarkson shoulder-charged lowry before hitting a 3 early in the game too, should we count that one also?

Like, it's the same fucking story in every single raptors playoff game. there are always at least 3 or 4 calls/non-calls that are just inexplicably bad against us.

The NBA is a fucking farce. This isn't even a sport anymore, it's as faked and rigged as the fucking WWE.

I don't even like hockey that much but NHL playoffs >>>>>> NBA playoffs. at least hockey teams both have a chance.

[A.I]

Yeah but you can't credit MJ for seasons he didn't play. 29 year old MJ was better than 29 year old Lebron. But Lebron has more seasons in the book at this extremely high level, and it's close enough in terms of skill once you take defense and playmaking into account that it might give him the edge.

Lebron is better than Jordan defensively lol...

[Other Scott]

Yeah that's what I was trying to say.

[S.R.]

MJ had Scotty Pippen on those Bulls teams and the best coach of all time. Lebron had prime DWade for two championships and the one loss, and the rest of his finals appearances have been with pretty mediocre teams that he's dragged there by sheer force of will (and a not great Eastern Conference admittedly).

Also Lebron is as good as he's ever been at 33 which is incredible. 2018 Lebron is better than 2011 Lebron and I'm not sure how that's possible.

Jordan was also eliminated in rounds 1-3 six times before he finally made a Finals. Lebron got to the Finals his second trip to the playoffs. Jordan never dragged teams to the Finals like Lebron does, he only got there with a great team (55 win team when he played baseball). Gotta count that in his 6-0.

[Jangles]

Jv..plz get him out plz..lol

Jordan Clarkson shoulder-charged lowry before hitting a 3 early in the game too, should we count that one also?

Like, it's the same fucking story in every single raptors playoff game. there are always at least 3 or 4 calls/non-calls that are just inexplicably bad against us.

The NBA is a fucking farce. This isn't even a sport anymore, it's as faked and rigged as the fucking WWE.

I don't even like hockey that much but NHL playoffs >>>>>> NBA playoffs. at least hockey teams both have a chance.

To be fair, there were a few bad calls against the Cavs also, specifically in the 4th.

[A.I]

Jordan was also eliminated in rounds 1-3 six times before he finally made a Finals. Lebron got to the Finals his second trip to the playoffs. Jordan never dragged teams to the Finals like Lebron does, he only got there with a great team (55 win team when he played baseball). Gotta count that in his 6-0.

Lebron never had to go against the overly stacked 80s Celtics.