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Yes and compare those stats to Guerin previously. He put up good numbers for 1 season after compared to good (and better) numbers for oaround a decade before. How is this even a debate? The league changed... so did the players and their style. Blame it all on his age... thats still just 'opinion you are trying to pass off as fact' and age still only touches a fraction of those involved in this lockout. Whats not opinion is the entire list of drastic rule changes and more than a small amount of discussion available about it, its effect on the league, its effect on players and its effect on team building.
Do you really think that 7% think there jobs are guaranteed anyways? How quickly does that bottom 7% dissappear and reappear in the NBA? Please, since when is this battle over Sonny Weems and Patrick O'Bryant? No one cares about them... they know it, players know it, the owners would know it if they even knew who they were, you and I know it.
There are 2 or 3 players on every team that get to be part of this discussion just because they were in the right place at the right time. That is their right, and it may be in their best interest to want to play right away... but should those few, or will those few, have much influence on those who actually play and will still be in the NBA 1-10 years from now?
Is that what its come to.... "lets get the most irrelevant involved so I can try and prove or push my agenda?" Please. When this CBA argument is over those bottom 7% are just as likely out of a job regardless of the CBA.
and put yourself in the 100% who are being forced to take pay cuts and are told they won't be able to recoup that money because of a statement by billionares they refuse to prove. I know for this argument people will easily believe they will take a pay cut for the good of their company or employer, but history proves otherwise. But no one ever has a problem wanting someone else to. The players are doing just what 99% of the world would do and has throughout history. Try to get every dime they can, both long and short term. They just happen to be doing it while already making alot more than most. But they are still human, acting in the way humans do, and acting the exactly way you or I would in their situation. They are doing the exact same thing the owners are, just from the other side.
Taking the advice of a guy who was aging, while becoming obsolete in a new system, playing for an inferior league (both financially, in viewership and growth) with a group who gave in at what could have been at the worst possible time.... is not necessarily good advice. It may be the best advice they get... it may also be terrible advice.
At the same time maybe Jerry Moyes could offer the owners some 'advice' especially on a hard cap and on how great it is for small market teams and Gary Bettman could give Stern some pointers about the importance of locating professional sports teams and sticking to your guns about it no matter what happens........
At the same time maybe Jerry Moyes could offer the owners some 'advice' especially on a hard cap and on how great it is for small market teams and Gary Bettman could give Stern some pointers about the importance of locating professional sports teams and sticking to your guns about it no matter what happens........
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