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2012 Draft Thursday, June 28th: Raptors select Terence Ross
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Hugmenot wrote: View PostA good opener for me to ask a question.
Given the Raptors current situation, do you believe Colangelo will draft a player based upon his mean expectations or based upon the likelihood he will meet or exceed a certain threshold?
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Matt52 wrote: View PostI think he would take Quincy Miller before Perry Jones.
Every scouting report I've read about PJ3 is if he gets the right coach(Dwane Casey) to push him he will be a star. I really don't see BryCo passing on that upside for Quincy Miller. Right now a lot can change but PJ3 is he best player on that Baylor team.@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostIf the draft was today and MKG is off the board and were picking lke 7 I don't think he would reach for Quincy Miller when their a player with crazy upside like jones. Miller has already had knew problems and bryco does not touch player with former knew injuries(Brandon Roy)
Every scouting report I've read about PJ3 is if he gets the right coach(Dwane Casey) to push him he will be a star. I really don't see BryCo passing on that upside for Quincy Miller. Right now a lot can change but PJ3 is he best player on that Baylor team.
I've been following Baylor very closely this year. The first 5 games of the season, Miller took charge as a freshman. PJ3 comes back and he sinks in to the background. HE has shown the ability to be productive without scoring with his rebounding and passing. Baylor also plays a 1-3-1 zone that shifts to a 2-3 in which he has also been very effective with his length and basketball IQ. I honestly haven't seen enough of his man defense to form an opinion. Looking at Jones' freshman year where he was the man and Miller's freshman year where he has been a sidekick who has stepped up at times, Miller looks like a much safer bet and, in my opinion, has more upside as a basketball player.
I agree Miller would be a stretch to take at 7 at this point in time, however, I can't see BC taking Jones' under any circumstance other than a second pick. Too much is riding on this pick to risk selecting Anthony Tolliver 2.0.
*EDIT* I mean Anthony Randolph 2.0 but what the hey.... Tolliver works too, he is just not nearly as athletic.Last edited by mcHAPPY; Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:24 PM.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
Perry Jones only played a handful of games last year before being Suspended. I believe he felt he owed something to the School/Program, or something along those lines.
his suspension was also total horse shit and i think your line of thought re: feeling like he let the program down or something is off because he didn't do anything wrong and the ncaa rules are retarded.
not that i like him or anything. he reminds me of tim thomas or earl clark or any other player that never did or never will live up to their potential. i'll take a lesser talented, more motivated, surer thing any day.
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I was feelin Miller, but not so much anymore. The KD comparisons are a bit (a bit is an exaggeration) too much.
If we're in that #6-7 position, I'm looking hard at a guy like Bradley Beal. I like that kid's game. I'm intrigued by PJ3's game because he's so versatile - kid can play from 3 to the 5, and he's got an arsenal of skills, but he doesn't seem to know how to put it together. It seems like in big games, he tends to disappear and he loses focus really easily. He needs a coach that will light that fire under him all day, and that could be Casey. And we all know how much Colangelo like versatile players. I wouldn't be opposed to selecting Jones.
For those worried about his vices, there was a write-up on a hotshot prospect now all-star/borderline allstar back in the day that sounds an awful lot Jones' vices:
his sophomore year was supposed to be his to take over college basketball. When that didn't happen, people began to question his desire and intensity and whether he has it in him to become great ... He floats in and out of games, and tended to defer to teammates in clutch situations ... Is it a lack of fire, or just a lack of maturity and confidence? Time will tell ...He still struggles to create offense for himself off the dribble, getting the majority of his baskets off of rebounds, or passes from teammates ...
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