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.@DeMar_DeRozan I challenge you to rekindle a lost friendship from your youth in Compton #MambaMentality pic.twitter.com/82XF2elJ1f
— Kobe Bryant (@kobebryant) August 24, 2017
Mamba Mentality
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TRex wrote: View Post.@DeMar_DeRozan I challenge you to rekindle a lost friendship from your youth in Compton #MambaMentality pic.twitter.com/82XF2elJ1f
— Kobe Bryant (@kobebryant) August 24, 2017
... could we use him as back up point?
... is kobe trying to tell us something?
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TRex wrote: View Post.@DeMar_DeRozan I challenge you to rekindle a lost friendship from your youth in Compton #MambaMentality pic.twitter.com/82XF2elJ1f
— Kobe Bryant (@kobebryant) August 24, 2017
Two beer away from being two beers away.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostDeebo silenced all his critics
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DanH wrote: View PostYes, he started playing more like how his critics said he should play, instead of the way he used to play. It's astonishing how his critics stopped criticizing him after that.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostRight cause critics like you always believe he would be this good. Get over yourself.
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He absolutely shut up his critics. As well as his fanboys who thought his game was fantastic the way it was. The silence is not driven by one side being proven wrong - everyone is happy (well, happier at least) with his performance now so there is nothing to talk about - neither to criticize too heavily nor to erroneously and illogically defend.
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DanH wrote: View PostI absolutely never believed he would be this good, because I didn't believe he would change his game the way he has. Of course, neither did many of his defenders at the time, who insisted his game as it was was perfectly fine and he didn't need to change it at all. He's proven me wrong, no doubt. He's also proven most of his supporters from years ago wrong, in an entirely different way of course. You won't see me crowing about DeRozan's improvement, but you will see those who "always believed in him" doing so in spite of their being just as wrong about his game as I was about his ability to change it.
He absolutely shut up his critics. As well as his fanboys who thought his game was fantastic the way it was. The silence is not driven by one side being proven wrong - everyone is happy (well, happier at least) with his performance now so there is nothing to talk about - neither to criticize too heavily nor to erroneously and illogically defend.
You say "change his game". How do you know that Deebo didn't always want to play this way. He just wasn't capable to do so at that point of his development. He just didn't have the handle, experience to do so. Luckily a guy like Masai had foresight to see this. Unlike many on this forum inclunding you. I understand though this is stuff that advanced stats can't show.
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Bahaha, who said "remember the arguments" and then who immediately resurrected one of the stalest arguments?
DeRozan backers always argued he was fine as he was, they argued directly against the criticisms at the time. None of them predicted "in 4 years his game will have improved in manners x, y, and z, therefore your criticisms are invalid." And no, the critics didn't argue for year-over-year improvement for several seasons, either. Nobody did. The arguments at the time were about DeRozan at the time. Nobody in this forum is any better at predicting the future 4 years from now than anybody else, regardless of who your favourite Raptor is.
FWIW if 28 year old DeRozan would have the exact same game as 24 year old DeRozan did but be paid $27m/year for it, this thread would still be on fire.
On a happy note - DeMar DeRozan gave us his #1 career highlight this past spring, putting the Bucks down for good on the road with this awesome shit:
"We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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DanH wrote: View PostI absolutely never believed he would be this good, because I didn't believe he would change his game the way he has. Of course, neither did many of his defenders at the time, who insisted his game as it was was perfectly fine and he didn't need to change it at all. He's proven me wrong, no doubt. He's also proven most of his supporters from years ago wrong, in an entirely different way of course. You won't see me crowing about DeRozan's improvement, but you will see those who "always believed in him" doing so in spite of their being just as wrong about his game as I was about his ability to change it.
He absolutely shut up his critics. As well as his fanboys who thought his game was fantastic the way it was. The silence is not driven by one side being proven wrong - everyone is happy (well, happier at least) with his performance now so there is nothing to talk about - neither to criticize too heavily nor to erroneously and illogically defend.
Probably better to admit that YOU were proven wrong. Its much more honorable.
We believed that Demar would get MUCH better. We saw his work ethic, saw the improvement and we believed. We took A LOT of heat for defending Demar not because we thought he was a finished product, but because we knew he wasn't......
Demar didnt shut up his fans......He made us proud!
This isn't a "both sides" were wrong situation.....That's ridiculous and appears to be an effort to cloud RR history.
Using words like erroneously and illogically defend makes me laugh. Who are you talking about? Who did that?
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