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KHD wrote: View Postsure, but it won't always make sense. Casey, though, has "liability" pounded into the rock he calls a brain, so even when JV is the right guy to play (for example against nurkic), it won't happen.
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Cross wrote: View Postthe worst of this is that JV will have no exp finishing games on the line. and even come playoff time, where Casey is forced to play him to close the game, it's a high possibility JV might stumble;/
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Cross wrote: View Postthe worst of this is that JV will have no exp finishing games on the line. and even come playoff time, where Casey is forced to play him to close the game, it's a high possibility JV might stumble;/"Stay steamy"
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hotfuzz wrote: View PostHe's not going to close games ever from now on. Not that it happened much before the trade.
The real issue is him not getting 26-30 minutes. There is zero reason for BeBe or Poeltl to play over JV if Ibaka is soaking up C minutes.
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DanH wrote: View PostAnd that's fine. They didn't have a better option before (seriously, BeBe was a disaster in the clutch, and there weren't many matchups where Pat at C was viable). I'm one of JV's biggest backers, and I don't think he should be closing with Ibaka/Pat or Ibaka/PJ available to crush teams' spirits defensively.
The real issue is him not getting 26-30 minutes. There is zero reason for BeBe or Poeltl to play over JV if Ibaka is soaking up C minutes.Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
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jimmie wrote: View PostI can think of one reason. If he's not going to be here next year, you probably want to start getting those guys minutes as long as it's not costing you wins.
And if it continues, it will cost the team wins, in all likelihood, especially in the playoffs.
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Let's hold our shit before declaring "well if Casey won't play JV 5 more mpg like I want him too, then fuck it all trade Valanciunas he shouldn't even be here!" That seems kind of extreme.
The FA's, tax implications, and younger guys waiting in the wings are going to determine who's on the roster next year and that's going to go a long way to determining who's getting minutes.
For the rest of this year, there are now a lot of bodies in the frontcourt and if they're getting 15/7 out of JV in 22 min like last night vs. Portland, that's not exactly a problem while Casey is trying different lineups with two new guys to integrate, especially when it's resulted in another win. I would have preferred to see JV in the fourth too, but I can understand he's giving Poeltl and Bebe turns with certain lineups to see how their mobility looks + works, which admittedly is better than JV's extending out to the 3 pt line.
It's a deep team right now which means some guys who arguably deserve more minutes are not going to get them. There's going to be some experimenting right now, there should be some tightening up of the rotation in the playoffs, and matchups are going to determine a lot in the playoffs. If the Raptors face off against 7 footers in the postseason and JV beasts like he did last year, I don't think you'll see Casey trying out a new Poeltl lineup in the 4th quarter. The postseason's going to be different."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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JV will play 20-25 minutes a night. One night might be more because of match ups. 10-15 minutes will be given to Bebe or Yak. Depending on whose playing well.
JV has accepted his role on this team. I think it's time most of you accept it as well.
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S.R. wrote: View PostLet's hold our shit before declaring "well if Casey won't play JV 5 more mpg like I want him too, then fuck it all trade Valanciunas he shouldn't even be here!" That seems kind of extreme.
The FA's, tax implications, and younger guys waiting in the wings are going to determine who's on the roster next year and that's going to go a long way to determining who's getting minutes.
For the rest of this year, there are now a lot of bodies in the frontcourt and if they're getting 15/7 out of JV in 22 min like last night vs. Portland, that's not exactly a problem while Casey is trying different lineups with two new guys to integrate, especially when it's resulted in another win. I would have preferred to see JV in the fourth too, but I can understand he's giving Poeltl and Bebe turns with certain lineups to see how their mobility looks + works, which admittedly is better than JV's extending out to the 3 pt line.
It's a deep team right now which means some guys who arguably deserve more minutes are not going to get them. There's going to be some experimenting right now, there should be some tightening up of the rotation in the playoffs, and matchups are going to determine a lot in the playoffs. If the Raptors face off against 7 footers in the postseason and JV beasts like he did last year, I don't think you'll see Casey trying out a new Poeltl lineup in the 4th quarter. The postseason's going to be different.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostJV will play 20-25 minutes a night. One night might be more because of match ups. 10-15 minutes will be given to Bebe or Yak. Depending on whose playing well.
JV has accepted his role on this team. I think it's time most of you accept it as well.
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