Everything 2024 Off-season

[MixxAOR]

[MixxAOR]

[golden]

Tank commander extraordinaire. He did his job.

That said, Temple is actually not a terrible 3rd string PG. He can still play a little bit.

[The Claw Reborn]

Scottie
Gradey
RJ
IQ

should be the core starting point of the rebuild

Following Quickley’s resigning, I was hoping for Patrick Williams and Jalen Smith who are both young guys who aligns Scottie’s age.

But that hope is gone after this shortsighted Ujiri extended $12 milx2 for Relic Olnyk

Trade Poeltl

[Primer]

Scottie
Gradey
RJ
IQ

should be the core starting point of the rebuild

Following Quickley’s resigning, I was hoping for Patrick Williams and Jalen Smith who are both young guys who aligns Scottie’s age.

But that hope is gone after this shortsighted Ujiri extended $12 milx2 for Relic Olnyk

Trade Poeltl

We can still clear $20M ish cap space to make an offer to someone in free agency. Would need to let Gary and Brown go. Jalen Smith still very much in play and I think fits better with us than Gary.

[G______Deane]

I would think Barnes, RJ, IQ, Dick, Poeltl, Olynyk, Agbaji are all back. Wouldn't be buying any real estate if I was any other player.

I think you're bang on there.

[G______Deane]

Yeah he's been great at signing guys that were drafted or he picked up via trade. But brand new talents in free agency he's been terrible. We've never had a lot of cap space to bring in "stars".

Look at the list:

Tyler Hansbrough
DJ Augustin
Austin Daye
James Johnson
Jordan Hamilton
Greg Stiemsma
DeMarre Carroll
Corey Joseph
Luis Scola
Bismack Biyombo
Jarred Sullinger
Fred VanVleet
Malcolm Miller
CJ Miles
Lorenzo Brown
Jordan Lloyd
Chris Boucher
Patrick McCaw
Jodie Meeks
Eric Moreland
Jeremy Lin
Stanley Johnson
Terence Davis
Matt Thomas
Oshae Brissett
Shamorie Ponds
Paul Watson
Aaron Baynes
DeAndre Bembry
Alex Len
Freddie Gillespie
Khem Birch
Isaac Bonga
Svi Mykhailiuk
DJ Wilson
Trent Waters
Daniel Oturu
Armoni Brooks
Justin Champagnie
Ron Harper
Juan Hernandez
Joe Weiskamp
Will Barton
Jalen McDaniels
Dennis Schroeder
Garrett Temple
Jevon Freedom-Liberty
Jontay Porter
DJ Carton
Mouhamadou Gueye
Kobi Simmons
Jahmi'us Ramsey
Malik Williams


Other than Bis and Fred (who was basically a rookie).. what are the wins here?

The team started pretty poorly. We were like 12-17 out of the gate or something. He was never really productive.. just meh. He should have been a backup not a starter. But he didn't want to come off the bench and asked to be traded.

Woof ....
True or not, I hate the "FA won't sign in Toronto" trotted out so often.
Like, why do we have a team here if our hands are tied so badly?
And the ones we DO sign are so often horrible.

[The Claw Reborn]

Woof ....
True or not, I hate the "FA won't sign in Toronto" trotted out so often.
Like, why do we have a team here if our hands are tied so badly?
And the ones we DO sign are so often horrible.

Unless Ujiri grow some courage and conviction, I would check with Ainge the availability of Lauri Markannen, he is an expiring after next season so not sure what Ainge is planning.

Bold move if CBA possible, sign IQ…then trade IQ/ Poeltl and the SA 2024 FRP (if we get lucky to take it back) for Lauri and Colin Sexton

so fitting that we already have a Dick, a Sexton is a must.

but this is just me, likely 99% Ujiri will hang on to Poeltl until his contract ends then probably extend him for another 4 years.

[slaw]

Woof ....
True or not, I hate the "FA won't sign in Toronto" trotted out so often.
Like, why do we have a team here if our hands are tied so badly?
And the ones we DO sign are so often horrible.

Most teams in pro leagues are not free agent destinations. Who was the last premier NHL free agent that signed with a Cdn team? Tavares? Should we do away with all the Cdn NHL teams then? Free agents are only one type of player acquisition.

OKC, Denver, Minny, Dallas, and Phoenix have never been free agent destinations and they are all west playoff teams. Add NO and Sacramento in there. Golden State has signed one premier free agent in like 50 years. The only east playoff team in the mix as a result of free agency is the Knicks and that was Jalen Brunson who was a tier 2 or 3 guy they got lucky on.

[Primer]

Most teams in pro leagues are not free agent destinations. Who was the last premier NHL free agent that signed with a Cdn team? Tavares? Should we do away with all the Cdn NHL teams then? Free agents are only one type of player acquisition.

OKC, Denver, Minny, Dallas, and Phoenix have never been free agent destinations and they are all west playoff teams. Add NO and Sacramento in there. Golden State has signed one premier free agent in like 50 years. The only east playoff team in the mix as a result of free agency is the Knicks and that was Jalen Brunson who was a tier 2 or 3 guy they got lucky on.

You could argue Boston is where they are now because of signing their initial big 3. That led to them getting a boat load of assets from the Nets. Which led to their current roster. Don't think Boston is where they are now without Boston gettin KG and Ray Allen.

[slaw]

You could argue Boston is where they are now because of signing their initial big 3. That led to them getting a boat load of assets from the Nets. Which led to their current roster. Don't think Boston is where they are now without Boston gettin KG and Ray Allen.

Celtics traded for both those guys. Garnett didn't want to go to Boston and had to be talked into going along with it and only committed after they landed Allen.

[Primer]

Celtics traded for both those guys. Garnett didn't want to go to Boston and had to be talked into going along with it and only committed after they landed Allen.

And Miami traded for Bosh and Lebron. "traded"

[golden]

You could argue Boston is where they are now because of signing their initial big 3. That led to them getting a boat load of assets from the Nets. Which led to their current roster. Don't think Boston is where they are now without Boston gettin KG and Ray Allen.

Ray Allen left as a FA to Miami and they got nothing for him. It was Pierce (who they drafted) & KG that they fleeced the Nets with to ultimately get Tatum & Brown. Elite post-chip asset management by Ainge, in comparison to Masai. Selling high, instead of falling in love and overvaluing your own players.

[slaw]

And Miami traded for Bosh and Lebron. "traded"

What? Garnett has a year left on his Minny deal and wasn't signing in Boston. Seattle was trying to unload Allen.

I get there's nuance in all this stuff but those are not comparable situations. At all.

[A.I]

And Miami traded for Bosh and Lebron. "traded"

Except the Celtics actually did trade for KG and Allen lol