Everything Playoffs 2024

[MixxAOR]

The top head coaches are now being paid $10,000,000 and up. Coaching staffs are bigger than ever and that's just the piece you see. What you don't see is the film team, analytics team, etc. working in the background.

And coaches do get fired all the time. It's a what have you done lately job. The fact teams are constantly looking for coaches to help them win (and eating massive dead salaries to do so) indicates the exact opposite of what you think it does.

Just looking for scapegoats. The reason they get fired is not "tactical" or some other reason but more personality crashing.

[golden]

I mean, pushing that Celtics series to 7 was impressive on its own after having hobbled core players led to the deficit we were in.

And the 76ers were not good this year. Not sure how that's so hard to wrap your head around. Already discussed elevating a less good roster to heights they don't deserve.

It's really not a meaningless criterion. We see over and over again coaches who have rosters just littered with stars AND depth and they can't coach their way out of a paper bag, losing to lesser opponents or getting blasted when they should at least put up a fight.

"Cherry pick the good." It's called being realistic about what coaches can do. Spoelstra didn't exactly drag the Heat to the ECF without Butler.

Hobbled core players in the Celtics series? I recall Lowry having a sore ankle, but that ended up being a nothing burger... he was spectacular. Hayward was out for the Celtics. But what I do recall was Ibaka and Gasol getting played off the floor by guys like Daniel Theis and rookie Robert Williams. Also remember Nurse being saved by the Lowry to OG miracle shot, or else Raps would've been swept. Just like Nurse's reputation was saved by the Kawhi 4-bounce miracle. Those player miracles are great coaching, right?

And the Knicks missing Randle are somehow a good team, but the Sixers having Embiid and Maxey are not? I thought high-end talent is what wins in the playoffs. Nurse had that, plus he didn't trust his bench (nothing changes).

And nobody ever puts Butler in the same category as legit MVPs, yet Spo has helped him to beat guys like Giannis and Tatum in the playoffs, because guys like Duncan Robinson, Jae Crowder, Caleb Martin, Gabe Vincent and Butler himself punch above their weight. Not always, but at least Spo demonstrates the ability to coach up, way more often than Nurse. Again, Nurse has zero... yes, zero, playoff success since Kawhi left. That's elite?

[slaw]

Just looking for scapegoats. The reason they get fired is not "tactical" or some other reason but more personality crashing.

You're not paying tens of millions for a scapegoat.

A coach is like a COO. Can you get by with a bad COO if your company is a finely tuned machine? For sure. For awhile. But as the assets change, age out, competitors catch up, etc. that bad COO will not offer much of anything to help your company. You want a good COO not because he's more important than the business itself but because he can help you get the most out of the business you have and also help you create the business you want.

So, yeah, if your business stinks the best COO in the world isn't going to make it Apple or Amazon but if you have a decent business you want to get the most out of then hiring the right COO is pretty important. You also want the right guy at the right time. Not every good COO is the right COO for that particular company based on experience, skillset, personality, etc.

Teams aren't spending tens of millions on analytics and player development because coaching is irrelevant or immaterial - they are doing it to try and get the most out of the team they have.

[Primer]

I am curious why you always have the axe to grind with certain posters like golden and I am not excluded from this special attention from you, always going out of your busy day to start a rabbit hole of a discussion.

Yet people (I can pinpoint two) with strongest opinions about this particular topic regarding this “coaching does not matter shit” you seem to find away to go around it. Haha.

It’s not necessarily golden arguing about coaching matters in general but more about Nurse as a coach which we already know he will always not a big fan of that guy.

Golden has been hammering on Nurse a ton looking for these exact conversations. If you wanna get in on it tell Golden how good of a coach Nurse is. Definitely not Dan looking for an axe to grind. Golden is basically that Stephen Crowder meme but the sign on his table says "Nurse is a mediocre coach change my mind".

[MixxAOR]

You're not paying tens of millions for a scapegoat.

A coach is like a COO. Can you get by with a bad COO if your company is a finely tuned machine? For sure. For awhile. But as the assets change, age out, competitors catch up, etc. that bad COO will not offer much of anything to help your company. You want a good COO not because he's more important than the business itself but because he can help you get the most out of the business you have and also help you create the business you want.

So, yeah, if your business stinks the best COO in the world isn't going to make it Apple or Amazon but if you have a decent business you want to get the most out of then hiring the right COO is pretty important. You also want the right guy at the right time. Not every good COO is the right COO for that particular company based on experience, skillset, personality, etc.

Teams aren't spending tens of millions on analytics and player development because coaching is irrelevant or immaterial - they are doing it to try and get the most out of the team they have.

GM sounds more like COO than coach. Coach is a manager. Who are dime and a dozen. The only team that did well (according to their standards) after changing coaches is Rockets and you can point that to FVV and Brooks being there. So I don't know. Teams spend a bunch of money for a whole lot of nothing.

[JawsGT]

Coaching is about fit too though. Sometimes its just how they mesh with their stars.

[MixxAOR]

Coaching is about fit too though. Sometimes its just how they mesh with their stars.

Not just star but young player with potential, players with significant salary.

[Primer]

Coaching is about fit too though. Sometimes its just how they mesh with their stars.

This is probably most important and can make or break a coach as far as job security goes. If the star wants you there you aren't getting fired. If he wants you gone you are getting fired.

[MixxAOR]

King will finish his career where it all started

[The Great One]

Must win game for OKC. Lose this game and they're done.

[The Great One]

This is absolute ass kicking so far. OKC's coach needs to wake up. Staple Giddey to the bench.

[3inthekeon]

Only 2 teams had a worse DRB% than the Raptors - one was the Wiz. The other was OKC. Dallas is killing them on the glass again. They sure could use a Drummond or JV in free agency next year. Draft Edey???.

[The Great One]

SGA needs to take charge. Your team is struggling to score and you're the only who can create your own shot. Take charge. Stop passing the ball to Dort or Williams. Holy shit.

[The Great One]

Washington is shooting the ball like he's Glen Rice.

[bertarapsfan]

Washington is shooting the ball like he's Glen Rice.

Luka seems to have that effect on time players. We saw it a ton with LeBron, those guys demand so much attention and are willing passers dude get a ton of open looks and know they are going to keep getting more looks. Lowers the pressure and guys always shoot out of there mind