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Is the D-League a Viable Way to Develop Young Players?
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tDotted wrote: View PostWould be pretty awesome if Bruno saw even a quarter of the total minutes those guys have.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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JWash wrote: View PostDisagree. They can be used well separately for stretches (Lowry moreso than DeMar) but they're at their best playing together so we should be looking to maximize that.
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JWash wrote: View PostDisagree. They can be used well separately for stretches (Lowry moreso than DeMar) but they're at their best playing together so we should be looking to maximize that.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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I think people underrate how happy Casey keeps his rotation guys by playing them the minutes he does. Meanwhile, the youngsters are kept hungry until rewarded for hard work as Powell has been. That's kind of the way it should be - clear expectations, clear pecking order, young guys ready to step up when their number is called, and an alternate route for those same young players to improve and prove themselves in the meantime (the 905).
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Barolt wrote: View PostStatistically speaking, Lowry is almost unquestionably better without DeMar on the floor actually. DeMar is much better when Lowry is on the floor though.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostI think people underrate how happy Casey keeps his rotation guys by playing them the minutes he does. Meanwhile, the youngsters are kept hungry until rewarded for hard work as Powell has been. That's kind of the way it should be - clear expectations, clear pecking order, young guys ready to step up when their number is called, and an alternate route for those same young players to improve and prove themselves in the meantime (the 905).
Patterson, Ross and CoJo have all seen minutes drop after their better games this season, and didn't see minutes increases after the January in which they were incredibly dominant as a bench group.
JV doesn't see his minutes or touches increase even in games in which he is directly dominating.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostBut does Lowry have to expend as much energy when playing with DeMar? That's a little more difficult to ascertain.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostI think people underrate how happy Casey keeps his rotation guys by playing them the minutes he does. Meanwhile, the youngsters are kept hungry until rewarded for hard work as Powell has been. That's kind of the way it should be - clear expectations, clear pecking order, young guys ready to step up when their number is called, and an alternate route for those same young players to improve and prove themselves in the meantime (the 905).Last edited by Mess; Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:35 PM.Two beer away from being two beers away.
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Mess wrote: View PostNo no you've got it all wrong. Casey should be using an algorithm based on lineup +/- data to determine the maximum playing time of each of the rookies (which of course will maximize their development, congruent to paying the most for a college) while achieving (but not surpassing) a predetermined point differential and/or # of wins.
Or would you agree that analytics should be part of the process?twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostStatistically speaking, Lowry is almost unquestionably better without DeMar on the floor actually. DeMar is much better when Lowry is on the floor though.
And there are lineups without Lowry and with DeMar that have been very successful. DeMar + bench is really good too, not quite Lowry + bench but very good. DeMar + JV + bench is very good. DeMar + JJ + bench too. As are the starters (JJ version) with Cory in place of Lowry. In fact, those are the top 4 lineups in MP with DD but without KL. All of them have an on-court net rating between +9 and +16.
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Barolt wrote: View PostYou can claim this is true with regards to Lowry/DeMar and now Powell, but it's not true with regards to almost anyone else.
Patterson, Ross and CoJo have all seen minutes drop after their better games this season, and didn't see minutes increases after the January in which they were incredibly dominant as a bench group.
JV doesn't see his minutes or touches increase even in games in which he is directly dominating.
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DanH hit the nail on the head.
Work a young guy into the rotation for a weak game on the schedule for that week. The tougher games you still lean on Lowry/DD and remain competitive.
Also CoJo and Ross need rest too...doesnt have to be Lowry/DD. also JJ has been awful...substituting Powell for all of JJs minutes will not have a worse effect than JJ...so he should still be getting more than he has
Looking at this based on season averages wont really work as the games you play the young guys in are essentially outliers to the normal data we have available to us. So cant correlate that
....And Bebe not playing when JV is injured is just plain stupid
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tDotted wrote: View PostYeah. Yeah it would.
It's highly unlikely a team in the lottery was going to draft him and have him play minutes in the NBA. If they drafted him, he would have been a 2nd rounder who would be on a non guaranteed contract, or stashed in Europe. If a first round team after Toronto picked him, he would have been either stashed, or sent to the nbdl. It's highly unlikely that a player of his ilk, was ever going to be drafted and given the type of minutes you're suggesting he should get.
We're not talking about a lottery pick. Bruno was an extremely raw player that many thought the Raps could have picked up in the second round.
Strange, I thought everyone was talking about Bebe's minutes not Bruno's. I thought that people realized that giving Bruno minutes was a bad idea.
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