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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostDamn, relax. This is what I mean. Some of you can't even be objective when it comes to JV. All I said is that you can't use Fiba as a reason of why JV will dominate next year. The reason why I have faith in DD is cause his a basketball junkie and his work ethic will never be questioned.
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So yeah, when you knock him and say you don't understand why people are so high on him, coupled with how you've long defended DeMar, you just sound like a complete hypocrite.
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DanH wrote: View PostDeRozan's first year:
RAPM: -1.9, -1.9
WS/48: .066
PER: 12.5
DeRozan's second year:
RAPM: -0.9, -1.6
WS/48: .055
PER: 14.5
DeRozan's third year:
RAPM: -0.5, -1.1
WS/48: .054
PER: 12.8
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Jonas' first year:
RAPM: -1.7, 0.5
WS/48: .127
PER: 15.6
Jonas' second year:
RAPM: -1.3, -1.7
WS/48: .141
PER: 16.1
Jonas' third year: ???white men can't jump wrote: View PostAlso looking at other stats....because no stats are perfect so may as well throw some more into the picture for something to mull over...
Jonas
1st year: ORTG 113, DRTG 106, OWS 2.5, DWS 1.5
2nd year: ORTG 112, DRTG 104, OWS 3.5, DWS 3.2
DeMar has never, not in 5 years, put up as high an ORTG, or as low a DRTG as Jonas has in either of his 2 seasons. His best year for both was last year at 110 and 107 respectively for O and D.
And for WS and looking at highs for each guy, DeMar has only once gone over 3.5 OWS, and that was last year at 5.8. And he has never put up a better DWS than the 3.2 Jonas did last year (DeMar's high was 3.0 and also last year).
Now, they play totally different positions, but again, I don't know how someone can have so much patience and blind faith in DeMar but constantly shit on Jonas.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostAnd what about JV makes you think he's not to the point where you ahve so many questions/doubts about him? By all accounts he works his butt off, and his work is evident in his development.
So yeah, when you knock him and say you don't understand why people are so high on him, coupled with how you've long defended DeMar, you just sound like a complete hypocrite.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLast edited by Chr1s1anL; Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:47 PM.@Chr1st1anL
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostAnd what about JV makes you think he's not to the point where you ahve so many questions/doubts about him? By all accounts he works his butt off, and his work is evident in his development.
So yeah, when you knock him and say you don't understand why people are so high on him, coupled with how you've long defended DeMar, you just sound like a complete hypocrite.
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Lets review:
mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
I highlighted the move at 22secs.
Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostThere's a huge difference between Fiba play and the NBA. Who did JV really match up against in this tourney? Not one Center he played against made it to the league. Except the USA team
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Bold 2: Again, undermining and discrediting the competition and performance.
Bold 3: Yet again undermining competition and JV's performance.
rocwell wrote: View PostAyon, Asik, Cousins, Davis, Gobert.
Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostDeMar didn't play. Dd has already proven to be an All-Star in this league. I just don't feel that JV has earned the untouchable label that he has on this forum. To me his hasn't even proved to be more valuable than Ross.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostHow did I knock him? All I said is that his World Cup play shouldn't sway ppl into believing that it will translate to the NBA. Doesn't mean he won't have success this year. Just saying not to base it on this tournament. I know you've adopted JV as your own but the rest of us are still allowed to be objective when it's comes to him.
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Bold 2: Who said this? Your post came after a highlight package was posted with emphasis on one post move. I played post and I'm not going to lie I was pretty good. The very fact he is attempting the moves in game situations is more than half the battle when performing post moves. That was the point - he is adding new facets to his game and this isn't the only move he has broke out this summer. It would appear to me that he has been putting the work in. Very few develop without putting the work in - as DeMar has more than demonstrated.
Bold 3: But who said this?
Bold 4: You lack objectivity... sorry. When highlights are shown and your response is:
Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostThere's a huge difference between Fiba play and the NBA. Who did JV really match up against in this tourney? Not one Center he played against made it to the league. Except the USA team
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostHow did I knock him? All I said is that his World Cup play shouldn't sway ppl into believing that it will translate to the NBA. Doesn't mean he won't have success this year. Just saying not to base it on this tournament. I know you've adopted JV as your own but the rest of us are still allowed to be objective when it's comes to him.
Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostDeMar didn't play. Dd has already proven to be an All-Star in this league. I just don't feel that JV has earned the untouchable label that he has on this forum. To me his hasn't even proved to be more valuable than Ross.
Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostDamn, relax. This is what I mean. Some of you can't even be objective when it comes to JV. All I said is that you can't use Fiba as a reason of why JV will dominate next year. The reason why I have faith in DD is cause his a basketball junkie and his work ethic will never be questioned.
Really doesn't seem to me like you're being objective. Seems to me like you look for any reason to say something negative about JV, and pretty much refuse to look for any reasons to similarly criticize the players (and coach) you like most.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostSo basically you guys our getting on me cause I choice to have a separate opinion? If you guys believe that Jonas will be an MVP candidate go ahead.
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You nailed it. Way to go!
Hoooray!
We all think JV is going to be an MVP candidate.
Congrats and taking your objectivity and opinions and doing this:
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Someone has to lend a hand to Chr1s1anL from getting gang-banged. I imagine he took a bunch of gang-banging while defending DeMar too, and whose looking smart now?
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostWhat are you guys doing bringing rationality to an irrational witch hunt?
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