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  • MixxAOR
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    damn David Blatt aged so much

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  • Primer
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    golden wrote: View Post

    It was Rowan Barrett who changed the policy and enforced a systematic change to the program, with the 3-year committment. You commit and you're in. If not, you have to hope there's a spot and also make the team. That's what forced SGA and other NBA'ers to commit to the summer core... the policy change - not some magical recruiting skills from Nurse.



    Google search Nick Nurse recruiting Canada basketball. You will find direct quites from Nurse and Barrett about Nurse recruiting for the team.

    Or believe Barrett did this all by his lonesome.

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  • MixxAOR
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    Nurse also helped with coaching search so shout outs to him. People seems to be high on Jordi

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  • golden
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    So the fact Canada hired a new coach that had just won an NBA championship had no effect on us putting together the best team we've ever had?

    Nurse publicly stating he was going to have get more involved in recruiting NBA guys to play isn't enough evidence for you?

    Believe what you want to believe.
    It was Rowan Barrett who changed the policy and enforced a systematic change to the program, with the 3-year committment. You commit and you're in. If not, you have to hope there's a spot and also make the team. That's what forced SGA and other NBA'ers to commit to the summer core... the policy change - not some magical recruiting skills from Nurse.

    "Coming out of Victoria last year, we decided to make a systematic change to how we put our teams together and what we're going to do moving forward," Rowan Barrett, GM and executive vice-president of the senior men's program, told a news conference at the Raptors' practice facility.

    "We determined we need to have continuity and cohesion within our teams. We have talented teams, we have talented players. But we need them somehow to be together — the left hand needs to know what the right hand's doing."

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  • Primer
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    golden wrote: View Post

    Nurse.... or Rowan Barrett... or RJ Barrett... or? There's zero evidence that Nurse is some type of master recruiter, or for example, it was the players themselves (like Team USA), who started reaching out to each other. The Canadian talent pool is much larger, for sure, and that has zero to do with Nurse.
    So the fact Canada hired a new coach that had just won an NBA championship had no effect on us putting together the best team we've ever had?

    Nurse publicly stating he was going to have get more involved in recruiting NBA guys to play isn't enough evidence for you?

    Believe what you want to believe.

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  • MixxAOR
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    Proof is in the pudding
    Last edited by MixxAOR; Thu Aug 3, 2023, 04:34 PM.

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  • golden
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    This right here guys.

    When you're a teenager and not in the NBA playing for your country is something they will all do.

    It's been incredibly frustrating how much more talented our junior teams are than the mens team.

    Convincing actual NBA players to play has been something the program has always struggled with.

    Nurse gets hired and gets our best NBA players to commit for 3 years.

    But sure he did nothing.
    Nurse.... or Rowan Barrett... or RJ Barrett... or? There's zero evidence that Nurse is some type of master recruiter, or for example, it was the players themselves (like Team USA), who started reaching out to each other. The Canadian talent pool is much larger, for sure, and that has zero to do with Nurse.

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  • Primer
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post

    Because last time SGA played for Canada was 2016 and now he committed for 3 years
    This right here guys.

    When you're a teenager and not in the NBA playing for your country is something they will all do.

    It's been incredibly frustrating how much more talented our junior teams are than the mens team.

    Convincing actual NBA players to play has been something the program has always struggled with.

    Nurse gets hired and gets our best NBA players to commit for 3 years.

    But sure he did nothing.

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  • MixxAOR
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    No one was suiting up for Jay Triano. Don't kid yourself

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  • golden
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post

    Because last time SGA played for Canada was 2016 and now he committed for 3 years
    I haven’t seen it written anywhere that Nurse was the guy who specifically convinced SGA to play. You would think that Rowan Barrett and RJ are directly reaching out. Why would you even need Nurse to recruit? The Barrett’s have probably known SGA since he was a kid and would likely have a way better relationship.

    Attributing to Nurse makes no sense.

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  • MixxAOR
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    guyroch wrote: View Post
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    I do agree that if Nurse convinced SGA to play for Canada he should be given props but again I am
    saying what proof is that the case ? SGA cousin has been loyally playing for Canada and
    maybe his cousin had some influence .. Could we say that SGA is healthy and has a long
    term deal and this is finally the time where everything works out that he can play for the National
    team ..

    Lets not just make this a Canada thing ... U.S.A isn't sending their A team .. This will always
    be a issue for U.S and Canada who don't value playing for your country as much as other
    FIBA countries ..


    Because last time SGA played for Canada was 2016 and now he committed for 3 years

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  • guyroch
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    No one said Nurse influenced Canada basketball. They said he got the top guys to commit to play for Canada, and that's true, he was in charge when they committed.

    You also cannot understate the value of Shai suiting up. The best player Canada has, that's not insignificant.

    Nurse played a part in how we're about to field the best team Canada has ever had.
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    I do agree that if Nurse convinced SGA to play for Canada he should be given props but again I am
    saying what proof is that the case ? SGA cousin has been loyally playing for Canada and
    maybe his cousin had some influence .. Could we say that SGA is healthy and has a long
    term deal and this is finally the time where everything works out that he can play for the National
    team ..

    Lets not just make this a Canada thing ... U.S.A isn't sending their A team .. This will always
    be a issue for U.S and Canada who don't value playing for your country as much as other
    FIBA countries ..



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  • golden
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    No one said Nurse influenced Canada basketball. They said he got the top guys to commit to play for Canada, and that's true, he was in charge when they committed.

    You also cannot understate the value of Shai suiting up. The best player Canada has, that's not insignificant.

    Nurse played a part in how we're about to field the best team Canada has ever had.
    Shai played for Team Canada as a junior. They all pretty much did. Nurse didn’t grow grassroots basketball in Canada and he didn’t give the current NBA players any more passion for representing our country than they already had. Those 2 elements are like 99% of what is necessary.

    Just like the Raps chip, Nurse jumped on a talent bandwagon… but even so he fumbled it in 2020 with a stacked squad. Nash was honest about why he became GM… because of Canada’s rising talent pool, but like Nurse, he squandered it.

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  • Primer
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    guyroch wrote: View Post

    I was just saying .. He may have had some influence ( being a NBA coach with a Championship ring ) in the participation
    of the guys in this camp .. But not with the growth of Canada basketball .. Although Nurse is gone and
    guys still going to play for Canada and so that means they want to play for Canada and it's not for loyality
    for Nurse .. It's not like Leo Kid who stopped playing for Canada when Jay was fired ..

    Murray always had a passion to play for Canada ( Don't think Nurse had influence ) .. Barret is here cause he grew
    up with his dad playing for Canada .. Kelly and Powel and Cory always show up .. Dillon Brooks played for
    Canada pre Nurse .. SGA maybe the one guy that I see Nurse influenced ..
    No one said Nurse influenced Canada basketball. They said he got the top guys to commit to play for Canada, and that's true, he was in charge when they committed.

    You also cannot understate the value of Shai suiting up. The best player Canada has, that's not insignificant.

    Nurse played a part in how we're about to field the best team Canada has ever had.

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  • MixxAOR
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    Nurse set the standard for these guys. He straight up said can't commit for multiple years don't bother and that resonated with players. And some guys like Wiggins took a hike.

    Canada basketball before was straight up begging guys to show up

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