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  • S.R. wrote: View Post

    Wonder if they could narrow it down enough to find just the teams that actually want to play, whatever 6 or 10 or 12 or whatever teams those are. I'd be fine with that, I don't need 13 WC teams or the Brooklyn Nets in this thing.
    There's no consistency among the players because you have guys like Trae Young and Zach Lavine who were pissed off that their teams didn't even meet the 22-team cutoff to get into the bubble. There's no pleasing everybody here.

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    • I havent seen it talked about but teams can pick up 2 extra players. Boogie is a free agent wonder if someone trys to get him
      To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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      • golden wrote: View Post

        There's no consistency among the players because you have guys like Trae Young and Zach Lavine who were pissed off that their teams didn't even meet the 22-team cutoff to get into the bubble. There's no pleasing everybody here.
        Fuck it. Whoever's not a whiny little bitch and wants that playoff revenue, meet in Orlando. Shoot for teams, shirts vs skins. And we're playing asphalt courts with chains on the rim.
        It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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        • G__Deane wrote: View Post

          Isn't the idea of the "bubble" that it makes no difference how good or bad the COVID situation is outside since there's zero or little movement from outside to in? It's their own isolated world for 3 months....

          My understanding is the players go in alone first and their families follow later.

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          • golden wrote: View Post

            There's no consistency among the players because you have guys like Trae Young and Zach Lavine who were pissed off that their teams didn't even meet the 22-team cutoff to get into the bubble. There's no pleasing everybody here.
            They didn't really try to please anyone though, did they? Its not like they brought in a player rep from each team to a conference call, told them the proposal and then sent them off for team votes on who wants to play. This should have been the first thing they did and instead that never even happened.

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            • Apollo wrote: View Post

              They didn't really try to please anyone though, did they? Its not like they brought in a player rep from each team to a conference call, told them the proposal and then sent them off for team votes on who wants to play. This should have been the first thing they did and instead that never even happened.
              But that’s on the union. Chris Paul and LeBron said everyone wants to play. Michelle Roberts said it won’t even go to a vote because everyone was in.

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              • Rudy Bargnani wrote: View Post

                But that’s on the union. Chris Paul and LeBron said everyone wants to play. Michelle Roberts said it won’t even go to a vote because everyone was in.
                Someone is lying. Either its them or its the media or its whoever is talking to the media.

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                • Apollo wrote: View Post

                  My understanding is the players go in alone first and their families follow later.
                  Families follow in the 2nd round I believe

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                  • Apollo wrote: View Post

                    They didn't really try to please anyone though, did they? Its not like they brought in a player rep from each team to a conference call, told them the proposal and then sent them off for team votes on who wants to play. This should have been the first thing they did and instead that never even happened.
                    Nah. Role players need to STFU and do what Lebron tells them. It’s been a recipe for success. If marquee guys like Lebron actually got paid relative to the revenue they generate, then 90% of the league would be making G-League salaries. Stay in yo lane.

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                    • golden wrote: View Post

                      Nah. Role players need to STFU and do what Lebron tells them. It’s been a recipe for success. If marquee guys like Lebron actually got paid relative to the revenue they generate, then 90% of the league would be making G-League salaries. Stay in yo lane.
                      The thing is role players are going to be the most affected if they don't play. If they cant recoup some tv revenue the cap is going to go down even further. The top 20 players are still going to get there maxes then their will be less left over for the role players
                      To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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                      • golden wrote: View Post

                        Nah. Role players need to STFU and do what Lebron tells them. It’s been a recipe for success. If marquee guys like Lebron actually got paid relative to the revenue they generate, then 90% of the league would be making G-League salaries. Stay in yo lane.
                        If the league tried to give them g league pay they would simply go overseas and get paid a lot more. Without the roleplayers the league is a joke. They all need to be elite athletes just to make this current NBA. Bron is the elite of the elite.

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                        • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

                          The thing is role players are going to be the most affected if they don't play. If they cant recoup some tv revenue the cap is going to go down even further. The top 20 players are still going to get there maxes then their will be less left over for the role players
                          What aboit luxury tax implication? You think the owners want tax on already dedicated dollars that were dedicated before all this shit happened?

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                          • Apollo wrote: View Post

                            If the league tried to give them g league pay they would simply go overseas and get paid a lot more. Without the roleplayers the league is a joke. They all need to be elite athletes just to make this current NBA. Bron is the elite of the elite.
                            I think of it like a movie. Theres Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio, they're the all stars like lebron and harden. Then theres supporting actors like John leguizamo or Paul giamatti. Those are the support guys like Kyle Lowry and Draymond green. They make the movie/game better, but hardly anbody's paying to see them. Then theres the bit actor with a few lines that you vaguely remember seeing in another movie. That's your norman Powell, or steve Kerr in the 90s. They have a moment, or add support, but the result of the movie or the series likely remains If they're replaced by someone else.

                            then you get the malcolm Miller's and Aaron grays. They are essentially movie extra who walks by the screen for a split second. You didn't even know they existed, unless you're an extreme movie buff. But in movies, those guys get like $50 bucks and free lunch. In the nba, they're millionaires with the same player association vote as Brad and Leo.
                            It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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                            • This is an example where free decision making based upon regular incentives would naturally solve the problem, but unions muck it up.

                              Wanna play? Come in, get paid, help the league (and by extension all players), get the appreciation of fans and promote you brand.

                              Don't want to play? Stay home and forfeit the above.

                              For the teams that lost players, let them call on their g-league affiliates. If there's enough of them around, maybe one of them will hit a couple of timely 3's on a key playoff game and get an NBA opportunity, as a fitting reward for wanting to do what others didn't want to.
                              2019 NBA Champions. Glad to have doubted the doubters.

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                              • This is also a display of access journalism at its worst:

                                Shams/Chris Haynes: Kyrie leads inspiring call. Gives the little guy a voice.

                                Woj: Kyrie, the disrupter. Was on call with union last week and asked about alcohol in the bubble and sponsorship opportunities.

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