Everything 2024 Off-season

[LJ2]

I'm pretty sure they would still win one game. The Raps never won a game when the regulars were all out. They were getting blown out consistently by b

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Who cares if they would win a game here and there without their stars? The point is they would suck. Just because they suck less than the a Raps roster that is a half season into the making and was trying to tank doesn't mean much does it?

I think we need that high end talent unless Scottie turns into a top 5 type of player. A Shai, Edwards type of talent.

[golden]

Who cares if they would win a game here and there without their stars? The point is they would suck. Just because they suck less than the a Raps roster that is a half season into the making and was trying to tank doesn't mean much does it?

I think we need that high end talent unless Scottie turns into a top 5 type of player. A Shai, Edwards type of talent.

Anthony Edwards isn’t top 5 in anything in the NBA, except FG attempts and FGs missed.

[LJ2]

Anthony Edwards isn’t top 5 in anything in the NBA, except FG attempts and FGs missed.

And yet if you remove him from that team they are the Timberwolves of the last decade and not a top team in the west.

[golden]

And yet if you remove him from that team they are the Timberwolves of the last decade and not a top team in the west.

Twolves are #1 in defense, #16 in offense. Gobert is way more important than Edwards in making them a top team this year.

[The Great One]

Twolves are #1 in defense, #16 in offense. Gobert is way more important than Edwards in making them a top team this year.

Stop it golden.

[G______Deane]

Webster just conforming what I wrote the other day; I expect reasonable changes to this roster, maybe a starter, certainly rotation pieces and bench. Movement of Bruce or Gary kicks off the dominos.

[SkywalkerAC]

If we hit on the draft, I expect us retain some free agent talent (Gary and/or Bruce) and makes above-the-cap trades.

If we strike out in the draft I think we strip down and exercise our cap space via trade or free agent signing. Less salary, better chance at a lotto pick.

just a hunch…

[3inthekeon]

GTJ and Nwora are UFA's and Brown as well if Raps decline. What kind of contracts do you expect they will get as FA's in $/yrs?

[LJ2]

Twolves are #1 in defense, #16 in offense. Gobert is way more important than Edwards in making them a top team this year.

That's Dan H reasoning at its best. Follow the stats right over the cliff lol.

[LJ2]

Here's hoping that Scottie comes back as a better version of Pascal next season, RJ continues to play like an All Stars, IQ gets comfortable in his new role, Gradey takes a leap and we find a good young player in the draft.

[3inthekeon]

GTJ and Nwora are UFA's and Brown as well if Raps decline. What kind of contracts do you expect they will get as FA's in $/yrs?

Here's my guesses

Nwora 2 yrs/6.5

Brown 1 yr/7.5

Trent 3 yrs/45

[DanH]

Gary seem like an MLE guy through and through. Nwora probably cheap but not minimum cheap, so Raps could use their room MLE on him if they chase cap room, or likely re-sign him with his rights if not (Early Bird should be way more than enough).

Interesting choices incoming: largely, keep Gary and trade Brown for returning salary (at the draft/summer or sometime next season) vs let Gary walk and not pick up Brown's option and chase free agents with cap space.

[planetmars]

Gary seem like an MLE guy through and through. Nwora probably cheap but not minimum cheap, so Raps could use their room MLE on him if they chase cap room, or likely re-sign him with his rights if not (Early Bird should be way more than enough).

Interesting choices incoming: largely, keep Gary and trade Brown for returning salary (at the draft/summer or sometime next season) vs let Gary walk and not pick up Brown's option and chase free agents with cap space.

If we trade Brown at the draft, can the team that takes him still opt out of his deal?

I know there is a stipulation in the CBA that any player with a partial guarantee has to have his contract fully guaranteed before traded. But Bruce's contract is a full team option. They have until June 29th to opt out.. that's 2-3 days after the draft. So could a team trade for his contract and then opt out? Or do they have to opt into his deal next year to take him?

Can we treat that contract as a large TPE? Because if we can that will open up a lot more flexibility at the draft. There are quite a few tax teams (and super tax teams) that might want to shed some salary and give up a contract.

Andrew Wiggins and the Warriors for example. If they ship out Wiggins and a nice little asset and free up all his money off their books it might be enticing. With a second day of drafting now we can create a bit of a bidding war going into that second day as well.

If we have to opt into his deal then the contract sucks. But wasn't completely sure about the rules on contracts with team options that expire after the draft but before free agency.

[DanH]

If we trade Brown at the draft, can the team that takes him still opt out of his deal?

I know there is a stipulation in the CBA that any player with a partial guarantee has to have his contract fully guaranteed before traded. But Bruce's contract is a full team option. They have until June 29th to opt out.. that's 2-3 days after the draft. So could a team trade for his contract and then opt out? Or do they have to opt into his deal next year to take him?

Can we treat that contract as a large TPE? Because if we can that will open up a lot more flexibility at the draft. There are quite a few tax teams (and super tax teams) that might want to shed some salary and give up a contract.

Andrew Wiggins and the Warriors for example. If they ship out Wiggins and a nice little asset and free up all his money off their books it might be enticing. With a second day of drafting now we can create a bit of a bidding war going into that second day as well.

If we have to opt into his deal then the contract sucks. But wasn't completely sure about the rules on contracts with team options that expire after the draft but before free agency.

No, Brown is not tradeable as a potentially expiring contract. We have to pick up his option to trade him. That's a general rule - no one can trade a contract in potentially its final year after the trade deadline. Non-guaranteed salary is different because there is still a contract year left, it just happens to have no money associated with it. (That loophole they tightened but didn't entirely close by changing the salary matching math on those deals after the deadline but not outlawing trading them entirely like option year contracts always have been).

I suspect if a team has a bad salary on a player they don't want on the court, they would give up some value to swap that player for Brown, who in theory is a functional rotation player even if overpaid, and especially if that player has more than a year left.

But there's no direct salary dump option for any team besides the Raptors. Which is why I'm currently leaning to them being more likely to opt out of his deal - but it will definitely depend on what their plans are re: cap room and Gary, as well as the level of interest elsewhere for his services.

[slaw]

Anthony Edwards isn’t top 5 in anything in the NBA, except FG attempts and FGs missed.

A product of the US NBA propaganda, er, media machine.