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  • raptors999
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    SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
    Our contracts can be packaged together no problem.
    Hard to trade for 12M+ player without giving up a starter or emptying the bench. Giving up a starter just means creating another hole

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    One problem right now is that there aren't salaries that can go out without hurt the roster. Wonder why MU didn't make a few deals unguaranteed. Contracts like Salmons and Amir are useful in trades
    Our contracts can be packaged together no problem.

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  • raptors999
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    SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
    Or commence an over-the-cap strategy, trading with teams desperate to get large swaths of cap space, taking on salary in an era where it's reasonably safe to do so because we know where the cap is going. That is, we can can take on large amounts of salary in consolidation, even going into tax territory, knowing the cap-raises are going to keep us from being a repeater.
    One problem right now is that there aren't salaries that can go out without hurt the roster. Wonder why MU didn't make a few deals unguaranteed. Contracts like Salmons and Amir are useful in trades

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    2017 seem to be a better time for the Raptors to target free agent. Let team blow their load first then go after free agents when the cap jumps again. Also, if KD does leaves OKC there will be a clearance sale on that roster like the Trailblazers.
    Or commence an over-the-cap strategy, trading with teams desperate to get large swaths of cap space, taking on salary in an era where it's reasonably safe to do so because we know where the cap is going. That is, we can can take on large amounts of salary in consolidation, even going into tax territory, knowing the cap-raises are going to keep us from being a repeater.

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  • DanH
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    Very tough to trade guys into cap space. But yes it is a possibility. Far more likely though you set up a sign and trade with the other team, rather than find a third party to dump salaries. Teams tend to bend other teams over a barrel when they know they need space.

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  • raptors999
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    Wild-ling#1 wrote: View Post
    So doesn't that mean we can trade Demarre Carroll and let T-Ross walk next summer ... and afford KD?

    OR Sign/trade Jonas (or even Kyle), part with T-Ross ... and get a Max Power forward?

    Which is not to recommend these moves, but only to suggest that there are all kinds of possibilities to land that put-you-over-the-top "star" (assuming the team still looks ready - otherwise - to take that next step)?

    2017 seem to be a better time for the Raptors to target free agent. Let team blow their load first then go after free agents when the cap jumps again. Also, if KD does leaves OKC there will be a clearance sale on that roster like the Trailblazers.

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  • Wild-ling#1
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Since I've seen some talk and even a thread on the topic, here is what our 2016 summer looks like right now.

    We have 9 players locked into contracts (KL, DC, CJ, PP, BB, BeBe, Bruno, Wright, Powell).

    We also have two draft picks (for this calc I've assumed 20th and 10th overall picks).

    We also have several free agents. DD, JV, Ross, Scola, JJ and de Colo. Only 4 spots for them right now.

    Cap situation:

    Keep all cap holds: 8M over cap
    Waive JJ, Scola and Nando: 2.3M cap room
    Also waive Ross: 11.2M in cap room
    Also waive DD: 25.4M in cap room (enough for a max offer on Durant, for example)

    If JV and/or Ross are extended those extensions eat into our cap room if they are bigger than their cap holds (11.7M and 8.9M respectively).
    SO: Couldn't we also (for example) trade Carroll, let T-Ross walk, in 2016 ... and afford KD?

    OR: Trade Cory, sign/trade T-Ross, part with Scola, etc. ... and get a Max Power forward?

    I am not recommending any particular moves - but we COULD manage cap-space, in various and intriguing ways, to land a "star" (if we still look ready - otherwise - to take that next step)?

    Last edited by Wild-ling#1; Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:43 AM.

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  • DanH
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    Roberts appears to be a multi-year deal. Could still be a training camp invite, but I like making it multi-year on the off chance he makes the team.

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  • DanH
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    mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    Raptors gave about 25% more than they had to.

    That is good for Powell.

    $125k is $125k.
    Probably bought them that unguaranteed third year. And with Biyombo they are well over the cap anyways, good way to use that last shred of cap room to foster good will with a player and his agent.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Basketball insiders getting their confirmed salaries up now. Insistent on DeMar's value sitting at 10.05M, curious what those incentives are...

    Powell got a slightly above min first year plus the minimum for the next two, third year unguaranteed. 650k this year. Scola got 2.9M.
    Raptors gave about 25% more than they had to.

    That is good for Powell.

    $125k is $125k.

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  • DanH
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    Basketball insiders getting their confirmed salaries up now. Insistent on DeMar's value sitting at 10.05M, curious what those incentives are...

    Powell got a slightly above min first year plus the minimum for the next two, third year unguaranteed. 650k this year. Scola got 2.9M.

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  • DanH
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    drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    What are the chances we'll off load T Ross while he's still an asset before the next season?
    Who knows? Can't predict Masai.

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  • drunkmunky
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    What are the chances we'll off load T Ross while he's still an asset before the next season?

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  • DanH
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    Since I've seen some talk and even a thread on the topic, here is what our 2016 summer looks like right now.

    We have 9 players locked into contracts (KL, DC, CJ, PP, BB, BeBe, Bruno, Wright, Powell).

    We also have two draft picks (for this calc I've assumed 20th and 10th overall picks).

    We also have several free agents. DD, JV, Ross, Scola, JJ and de Colo. Only 4 spots for them right now.

    Cap situation:

    Keep all cap holds: 8M over cap
    Waive JJ, Scola and Nando: 2.3M cap room
    Also waive Ross: 11.2M in cap room
    Also waive DD: 25.4M in cap room (enough for a max offer on Durant, for example)

    If JV and/or Ross are extended those extensions eat into our cap room if they are bigger than their cap holds (11.7M and 8.9M respectively).

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  • DanH
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    drunkmunky wrote: View Post
    What's the idea of keeping nando de colo on our books? will he be used as a trade chip?
    Nope. Unless we sign him and then trade him later in the season. Can't trade a free agent's rights, and can't sign-and-trade a guy who's been out of the league. I imagine it is simply keeping options open down the road - if we at some point need a vet backup PG and are well over the cap, if he improves in Europe he could be brought over on a mid-level sized deal (we have his Early Bird Rights).

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