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planetmars wrote: View Post
I don't know.. I think Houston takes Mobley. They love drafting big men with their high picks. Going back to Sampson and Hakeem.. but then Yao Ming as well. They have Wood, but they can move him to PF.
Green would make sense for them for sure.. but can he work with Kevin Porter Jr who plays his spot? John Wall is still there, and has another 2 years on his deal.. so can't really move Porter to PG.
The Cavs are interesting because I suspect they'll actually try to trade that pick. They suck at drafting and are probably looking for win now talent. Package 3 with Love to get something substantial? Maybe try to get Simmons from Philly? I bet Philly would think hard about that offer.
The Cavs need a playmaker, and not necessarily a shooter since they have Sexton and Garland in their back court.
Philly could then use #3 to take Green, leaving us with Suggs.
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golden wrote: View Post
Yeah, let's hope the Cavs hold true to form and pick Kuminga. And the Magic really covet Mobley. That said, a lot of what I'm reading this morning has the draft going like this:
Top 2: Cade/Green
3/4: Suggs/Mobley
I'm all in on Jalen Green, but with the success of Devin Booker, I think he's long gone by #4. Most likely the Rockets will draft him. Also, the Cavs gave up a FRP for Jarrett Allen's bird rights so he's a lock to re-sign... so do they really need another young center? I think their move is to trade Sexton and draft Suggs, which leaves us with Mobley.
Regardless, Cade and Green are going 1 and 2. The Cavs have Allen so I don't see them drafting a C. Suggs makes a lot of sense for them. Yes, they have Garland and Sexton but let's be honest here, they're good players but they're no stars.
Pistons - Cade/Green
Rockets - Cade/Green
Cavs - Suggs
Raptors - MobleyMamba Mentality
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The Great One wrote: View Post
I don't think it's a sure thing that Cade goes 1st. The Pistons drafted a PG 5th overall last year(Hayes). If they draft Cade then what happens to Hayes? can he play the 2? Green makes so much sense for them + I think he's the better player.
Regardless, Cade and Green are going 1 and 2. The Cavs have Allen so I don't see them drafting a C. Suggs makes a lot of sense for them. Yes, they have Garland and Sexton but let's be honest here, they're good players but they're no stars.
Pistons - Cade/Green
Rockets - Cade/Green
Cavs - Suggs
Raptors - Mobley
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Raptors have drafted twice at #4, and it was Chris Bosh, and Antawn Jamison/essentially Vince Carter. So with the #4 pick we've drafted the only 2 NBA HOFers who had their best years as Raptors. Seems to be the lucky number.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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planetmars wrote: View Post
I don't know.. I think Houston takes Mobley. They love drafting big men with their high picks. Going back to Sampson and Hakeem.. but then Yao Ming as well. They have Wood, but they can move him to PF.
Green would make sense for them for sure.. but can he work with Kevin Porter Jr who plays his spot? John Wall is still there, and has another 2 years on his deal.. so can't really move Porter to PG.
The Cavs are interesting because I suspect they'll actually try to trade that pick. They suck at drafting and are probably looking for win now talent. Package 3 with Love to get something substantial? Maybe try to get Simmons from Philly? I bet Philly would think hard about that offer.
The Cavs need a playmaker, and not necessarily a shooter since they have Sexton and Garland in their back court.
Philly could then use #3 to take Green, leaving us with Suggs.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostIf Philly did trade in, you'd think they'd want the true-point guard win-now leader in Suggs, non? Would leave us with Green or Mobley.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Philly needs to win a title quickly before Embiid's legs fall apart. They can't waste a year (or more) waiting on a rookie guard hoping he turns into a superstar. They need a proven guy. None of these rookies are 'win-now' guys. They are rookies who will have good games and bad games and will have all sorts of weaknesses exposed for a couple years.
Cavs came out pretty quickly saying they would look at trading the pick for a young all-star caliber player. Simmons matches that requirement.
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https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...1-Lottery-Pick
The NBA hasn't seen very many high lottery picks traded in the recent future, but this lottery could be different with several teams interested in trading for a more established player.
"There are multiple teams, I'm told: Cleveland, Minnesota, Houston, who are going to be very aggressive if they're in the top of this lottery with perhaps putting those picks in trades to bring back young veteran players or All-Star caliber players to accelerate their rebuilds," said Adrian Wojnarowski on ESPN shortly before the draft.
The draft is widely considered to be a good one, especially with five potential All-Stars in Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jalen Suggs, Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga.
Update: While the Wolves lost their pick to the Golden State Warriors, the Rockets ended up with the second pick while Cleveland will pick third.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Philly needs to win a title quickly before Embiid's legs fall apart. They can't waste a year (or more) waiting on a rookie guard hoping he turns into a superstar. They need a proven guy. None of these rookies are 'win-now' guys. They are rookies who will have good games and bad games and will have all sorts of weaknesses exposed for a couple years.
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golden wrote: View Post
I dunno if we can say "Houston likes drafting big men". They haven't had a lottery pick since 2Pat, I believe, and that was over a decade ago. Quite a few regimes have come and gone since Yao (2002). If anything, I feel like Tillman Fertitta's personality will make him draft the flashiest scorer and most immediately marketable player.... and that's Jalen Green.
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