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LJ2 wrote: View Post
It's the Raptors ability to develop whoever they draft that creates the biggest question mark about who they will draft. Do they reach for someone like Scottie or Keon who have superior physical tools, defense, motor, drive etc, but lacking teachable skills?
Speaking of teachable skills, whenever I read a Mobley scouting report there's one common theme that I keep seeing. This is just from one website:
"What seems to separate AD from Mobley is his consistency and focus"
"Based on pure upside, Mobley is probably the player with the highest ceiling in this year’s draft. So why is he projected to fall past 1? Mobley’s demeanor concerns some scouts due to his lack of consistency with regard to intensity and focus. Mobley does not always illustrate ideal body language and shows a tendency to defer at times instead of taking over."
I don't know about you but this sounds like an Andrew Wiggins scouting report. These are big red flags.Mamba Mentality
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
Question though, why reach, why not start with a stronger base? Do we really think we can't develop Suggs as much as we can develop Barnes? Barnes has more to go and if he makes small improvements people will go NUTS but if Suggs makes small improvements he will still be better as an example.
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saints91 wrote: View Post
I agree with this sentiment. Does Suggs not have the ability to develop more? He is above average athlete, already has a great base of skills. He was a two sport athlete now with time to focus completely on basketball. He has the tools and work ethic to be great. There's no denying that Scottie Barnes has amazing physical attributes but there's plenty of examples of freakishly athletic guys never putting it together.
Mahomes, Russell Wilson, even MJ played baseball.
That is a very positive sign.
This is why I'm afraid we'd have to move up if we really want Suggs.
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saints91 wrote: View Post
I can see that, Mobley seems timid at times. He doesn't appear to be the alpha athlete.
These are the pressing questions that I am told determine NBA success.
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saints91 wrote: View Post
I agree with this sentiment. Does Suggs not have the ability to develop more? He is above average athlete, already has a great base of skills. He was a two sport athlete now with time to focus completely on basketball. He has the tools and work ethic to be great. There's no denying that Scottie Barnes has amazing physical attributes but there's plenty of examples of freakishly athletic guys never putting it together.
Lol I know I keep defending suggs but yeah I like mobley more for the record.
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostNot sure if it's been posted yet, but here is a list of players that are confirmed to be working out with the Raps:
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Basically a list of "who is this?"
Pretty sure Aaron Wiggins has a promise in the draft. It surprised some that he's staying in.
Other than him any of these guys worth looking at?
Also, because of Insta posts we know that these 3 have also been in Tampa
Evan Mobley
Isaiah Mobley
Jonny Juzang
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
Question though, why reach, why not start with a stronger base? Do we really think we can't develop Suggs as much as we can develop Barnes? Barnes has more to go and if he makes small improvements people will go NUTS but if Suggs makes small improvements he will still be better as an example.
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slaw wrote: View Post
But does he have a hot girlfriend? Does he have swagger? Does he have 'it'? Does he give 110% and try to help the team any way he can? Is he a 'gym rat'? Does he want to win every poker game he plays?
These are the pressing questions that I am told determine NBA success.
Classic Masai response was, paraphrasing: "...you can find out a lot of things about a player by watching him play, but what is also really important is what's in here".... and he taps his heart, for emphasis.
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Besides Giannis, is there another player as raw as Barnes that has come into the league and become an all-star or superstar? Most players that succeed are farther along in there development than Barnes. His passing and court vision are completely over rated, and he can't shoot.
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golden wrote: View Post
Funny that you mock character, self-confidence, compete-level and intangibles; but, I remember Masai being asked what he looks for when drafting a player.
Classic Masai response was, paraphrasing: "...you can find out a lot of things about a player by watching him play, but what is also really important is what's in here".... and he taps his heart, for emphasis.
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golden wrote: View Post
Funny that you mock character, self-confidence, compete-level and intangibles; but, I remember Masai being asked what he looks for when drafting a player.
Classic Masai response was, paraphrasing: "...you can find out a lot of things about a player by watching him play, but what is also really important is what's in here".... and he taps his heart, for emphasis.
Mamba Mentality
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saints91 wrote: View PostBesides Giannis, is there another player as raw as Barnes that has come into the league and become an all-star or superstar? Most players that succeed are farther along in there development than Barnes. His passing and court vision are completely over rated, and he can't shoot.
I could name a ton of players less ready for the league that went on to great careers. Al Harrington, Tmac, Gerald Wallace, Amare, maybe even Pascal as a older college player.
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