Everything Pascal Siakam

[Primer]

Hello guys, I've been lurking here for some time and finally decided to join you. Found no new members thread, but I guees I could drop my first message here, cause it's my fav player thread! Name is Joe and I am thrilled to be a part of this community.

Cheers!

Welcome to the forum. You have all offseason to work on your posting game. Gotta get in game thread shape for next season.

[G____Deane]

Hello guys, I've been lurking here for some time and finally decided to join you. Found no new members thread, but I guees I could drop my first message here, cause it's my fav player thread! Name is Joe and I am thrilled to be a part of this community.

Cheers!

Hey welcome aboard.
I don't think I have ever seen a member introduce themselves, a common thing on other sites I'm on.

[Maury]

Hello guys, I've been lurking here for some time and finally decided to join you. Found no new members thread, but I guees I could drop my first message here, cause it's my fav player thread! Name is Joe and I am thrilled to be a part of this community.

Cheers!

Welcome!

[RaptorRoamer]

Hello guys, I've been lurking here for some time and finally decided to join you. Found no new members thread, but I guees I could drop my first message here, cause it's my fav player thread! Name is Joe and I am thrilled to be a part of this community.

Cheers!

[BrydenB]

If Siakam made all NBA would the Raptors really give him the supermax? And if they did, what would be the reaction here?

I'd have to consider taking a break from cheering for the Raptors, lol

[DanH]

OK, so try to trade him by the draft, and if we can't find a deal extend him immediately post draft.

How long are we stuck with Fred if he opts out and we resign him? Assuming it's different than the 6 months if we extend him.

Bird Rights re-signed FAs can be traded mid-January.

[Primer]

Depends when we extend him. Do it early in the summer and the 6 months is not an issue for the trade deadline. OG's extension has to wait until just before the season starts, so he'd be the one the 6 month rule causes issues for.

OK, so try to trade him by the draft, and if we can't find a deal extend him immediately post draft.

How long are we stuck with Fred if he opts out and we resign him? Assuming it's different than the 6 months if we extend him.

[DanH]

If we give Pascal a regular max extension we can't trade him for 6 months. Which I believe would take us past the trade deadline and we'd have him for all of next season.

What we need to do is keep Pascal involved, if he tells the team we're trading him to that he will take a max extension from them we have the maximum value and we can trade him immediately.

Depends when we extend him. Do it early in the summer and the 6 months is not an issue for the trade deadline. OG's extension has to wait until just before the season starts, so he'd be the one the 6 month rule causes issues for.

[chris]

Not relevant to other teams. The early supermax is only available to us, once he's traded it goes away.

of course, brain fart there. i went to a show last night and then zoomed through the games when i got home and obviously didn't get enough sleep

[chris]

If we give Pascal a regular max extension we can't trade him for 6 months. Which I believe would take us past the trade deadline and we'd have him for all of next season.

What we need to do is keep Pascal involved, if he tells the team we're trading him to that he will take a max extension from them we have the maximum value and we can trade him immediately.

yeah this just further solidifies we need to trade him before the season starts

[DanH]

he's still supermax eligible if he makes an all NBA team next year, which is why it's so important to trade him now as i have zero interest in watching this team with him gunning for all-NBA next season

edit - not sure the mere fact of not making all-nba necessarily increases his immediate trade value, as other teams might also be wary of that and he'd also only be on a one year deal. to maximize his trade value we'd probably have to extend him now to a regular max contract and then trade him, though i'm not sure how soon we could trade him after extending him. hopefully immediately

Not relevant to other teams. The early supermax is only available to us, once he's traded it goes away.

If we max out his extension or get anywhere close, we have to wait 6 months to trade him after extending.

[Primer]

he's still supermax eligible if he makes an all NBA team next year, which is why it's so important to trade him now as i have zero interest in watching this team with him gunning for all-NBA next season

edit - not sure the mere fact of not making all-nba necessarily increases his immediate trade value, as other teams might also be wary of that and he'd also only be on a one year deal. to maximize his trade value we'd probably have to extend him now to a regular max contract and then trade him, though i'm not sure how soon we could trade him after extending him. hopefully immediately

If we give Pascal a regular max extension we can't trade him for 6 months. Which I believe would take us past the trade deadline and we'd have him for all of next season.

What we need to do is keep Pascal involved, if he tells the team we're trading him to that he will take a max extension from them we have the maximum value and we can trade him immediately.

[chris]

he's still supermax eligible if he makes an all NBA team next year, which is why it's so important to trade him now as i have zero interest in watching this team with him gunning for all-NBA next season

edit - not sure the mere fact of not making all-nba necessarily increases his immediate trade value, as other teams might also be wary of that and he'd also only be on a one year deal. to maximize his trade value we'd probably have to extend him now to a regular max contract and then trade him, though i'm not sure how soon we could trade him after extending him. hopefully immediately

[golden]

Everyone on the team has seen their defense suffer. Maybe it's not Pascal?

Nah, even Jimmy Butler said it's really difficult to be a top option on offense, and still have enough energy left to play defense. We've seen defensive slippage with Lowry and Fred. And DeMar never gave effort on D. That's what made peak Kawhi so impressive.

And... offense gets paid.

[Limited Upside]

Siakim at the early part of this upward swing of his career was a quality A defensive player and a great Robin to a star on a team .. Him
being " the guy " his defense has suffered .. That old Siakam with OG and Barnes would be a one of the top defensive teams in
the league ..

Everyone on the team has seen their defense suffer. Maybe it's not Pascal?