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  • SkywalkerAC
    started a topic Everything Pascal Siakam

    Everything Pascal Siakam

    Pascal deserves his own thread as well. For a 27th pick, it's incredible that we can basically pencil him in for significant production with the 2nd unit this year. He's one of the best open court rim runners in the league, has a motor that won't quit, and comes across as a first class teammate/young man. The big question is whether he can be an impact defender in just his 2nd season.

    He doesn't get enough talk.


  • Truth Teller
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    These are some nice under the radar players who could be good:
    Montrez Harrell
    Jusuf Nurkic
    Mitchell Robinson
    Thomas Bryant
    Richaun Holmes

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  • bertarapsfan
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    I feel like Gary Harris could be a oladipo like guy, He's always going to be in Jamals shadow but he a very good player in his own right. He's the type of guy that changes team and people who havent seen him much go holy shit this guy is good.

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  • MixxAOR
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post

    Bigs aren't valued so much anymore, but KAT seems like a guy who might be attainable if Minny has yet another bad season. He has all the tools to be a great defender...maybe a change of scenery and a winning culture?

    Beal I find less intriguing as a "room to grow" type guy. He's good, but seems to have reached his ceiling already.

    D. Booker, Heild and De'Aron Fox are guys I think have another level (or two) to go.
    Sorry but none of those guys are undervalued.

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  • LJ2
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    golden wrote: View Post

    Trade is still possible if you can find the next Oladipo, Harden, D'Angelo Russell, etc... an undervalued young player that gets traded and blows up for your organization. Raptors did that before with Lowry.

    Any thoughts on who could be the next guy to be plucked off a roster and break out for a new team?
    Bigs aren't valued so much anymore, but KAT seems like a guy who might be attainable if Minny has yet another bad season. He has all the tools to be a great defender...maybe a change of scenery and a winning culture?

    Beal I find less intriguing as a "room to grow" type guy. He's good, but seems to have reached his ceiling already.

    D. Booker, Heild and De'Aron Fox are guys I think have another level (or two) to go.

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  • golden
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    G__Deane wrote: View Post

    Terrible thought but championship shot every time ..... but this team doesn't really have a Siakam behind him like when Demar was traded....

    Like it or not, Masai has to find a way to SIGN an elite FA here to play with Pascal, we're not trading for one.
    Trade is still possible if you can find the next Oladipo, Harden, D'Angelo Russell, etc... an undervalued young player that gets traded and blows up for your organization. Raptors did that before with Lowry.

    Any thoughts on who could be the next guy to be plucked off a roster and break out for a new team?

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  • G__Deane
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    That type of Kawhi for DeMar trade scenario will never happen again where we have a shot at a top 5 player. But if it did and Pascal was the sacrificial lamb would you rather have one more year with a top 5 player and a shot at winning another championship or would you have the next 4 years (potentially another contract) with PS?
    Terrible thought but championship shot every time ..... but this team doesn't really have a Siakam behind him like when Demar was traded....

    Like it or not, Masai has to find a way to SIGN an elite FA here to play with Pascal, we're not trading for one.

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  • LJ2
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    That type of Kawhi for DeMar trade scenario will never happen again where we have a shot at a top 5 player. But if it did and Pascal was the sacrificial lamb would you rather have one more year with a top 5 player and a shot at winning another championship or would you have the next 4 years (potentially another contract) with PS?

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  • golden
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    The Great One wrote: View Post

    2013 Wade averaged 21/5/5 and shot 52% from the field. His decline imo started the year before he signed with the Bulls.
    Playoff Wade, man. You keep forgetting that part. 2013 Playoffs. Wade was hot garbage. 15.9 ppg on .498 TS%, 102 ORTG, 25% USG. That’s really, really bad. Shell of himself. That’s when the decline started.

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  • KeonClark
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    RandomGuy wrote: View Post

    To be fair Dirk started to really decline at the same age Wade retired.
    Oh forsure, wasn't a "who's better" comparison, I just like when athletes retire before they're actually a shell of themselves.

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  • RandomGuy
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Declines are not a one moment in time, even though its neater and tidier to pinpoint the moment. Wades decline was slow and steady, from 2010 around 29 when he was a top 5 player at his peak. Wade was never really a "shell of himself", just a star player slowly getting older. Even in his later years he was a decent 6th man/3rd scoring option, unlike Dirk where it got kind of cringy watching him
    To be fair Dirk started to really decline at the same age Wade retired.

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  • KeonClark
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    The Great One wrote: View Post

    2013 Wade averaged 21/5/5 and shot 52% from the field. His decline imo started the year before he signed with the Bulls.
    Declines are not a one moment in time, even though its neater and tidier to pinpoint the moment. Wades decline was slow and steady, from 2010 around 29 when he was a top 5 player at his peak. Wade was never really a "shell of himself", just a star player slowly getting older. Even in his later years he was a decent 6th man/3rd scoring option, unlike Dirk where it got kind of cringy watching him

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  • Puffer
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    ...From Grange's article, Pascal's camp wanted a player option in that 4th year and ended up caving.
    I wonder if that was Pascal telling his agent team that he was happy with the deal and just get it done.

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  • G__Deane
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    007 wrote: View Post

    Another way to look at it: Siakam will be paid less than or roughly equal to Mike Conley, Gordon Hayward, Tobias Harris, Khris Middleton, Kemba Walker and Jamal Murray. Beal will be the same once his extension kicks in. Davis will get a monster deal next summer, which will start same time as Pascal’s
    Another way to look at it is a ton of players are over paid lol

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  • planetmars
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    There is a C category for all-nba. So 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 C per team.

    KAT and Jokic will be C's. Forwards will include: Giannis, Lebron, Kawhi, George, Blake, Aldridge, etc. No KD who's usually in the first or second team though.

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