Everything VanVleet

[planetmars]

With respect, if you move Fred, who cares what he wants? You move him for the best return for the team, period.

Yes, that's what a fan would say. But not a team that cares about carrying on some type of culture. It is what it is. Besides, he's a free agent. So no team is going to give up a lot for a rental.

[Kagemusha]

Yes, that's what a fan would say. But not a team that cares about carrying on some type of culture. It is what it is. Besides, he's a free agent. So no team is going to give up a lot for a rental.

Demar, JV, Norm...
they never had the say.
It was just Kyle who got that treatment.
And Fred is no Kyle.

[planetmars]

Demar, JV, Norm...
they never had the say.
It was just Kyle who got that treatment.
And Fred is no Kyle.

Norm and JV weren't treated like franchise guys. DeMar was and Masai cried over that trade.

I could be reading these tea leaves wrong. But I'd be shocked if he was blind sided in a trade this season.

[changv10]

Has anyone discussed a trade starring Fred Van Vleet + x (balance contracts) for Jamal Murray + y (talent)?

[TrueTorontoFan]

Has anyone discussed a trade starring Fred Van Vleet + x (balance contracts) for Jamal Murray + y (talent)?

we have a bit but i dont think the nuggets want to trade jamal ... MPJ on the other hand is a maybe

[Kagemusha]

Norm and JV weren't treated like franchise guys. DeMar was and Masai cried over that trade.

I could be reading these tea leaves wrong. But I'd be shocked if he was blind sided in a trade this season.

Fred is a franchise guy????

[planetmars]

Fred is a franchise guy????

Yup.. hangs with the coach's. Go to interview by the media. Considered one of the leaders. First name on the poster basically.

Being a franchise guy is not always about talent. Nick Collison in OKC was a franchise player for that team, and that's why they retired his number.

Haslem is a franchise player for the Heat.

[Kagemusha]

Yup.. hangs with the coach's. Go to interview by the media. Considered one of the leaders. First name on the poster basically.

Being a franchise guy is not always about talent. Nick Collison in OKC was a franchise player for that team, and that's why they retired his number.

Haslem is a franchise player for the Heat.

That's a totally weird definition of franchise player.
i hope you're not being serious.

[planetmars]

Not all franchise players are treated the same.
Agree?

Yeah for sure.. but because Fred is basically one here.. he will be treated with some kid gloves. Plus him being a free agent this summer makes it even more tough to handle. I just don't think he gets moved. And if he did it would be his call.

Masai and Bobby can prove me wrong though.

[Yuri Gagarin]

mgmt needs to decide if fred makes more wins than if they trade him for something. There should be no kid gloves

[The Claw Reborn]

Sell high

[The Claw Reborn]

Addition by subtraction is a very nice idea

but if we can get a decent return for him, it is a win-win.

there will be suitors…

[The Claw Reborn]

Utah trade:
VanVleet/ Birch/ Precious
for
Lauri Markannen/ Olynyk

Orlando trade:
VanVleet
for
Bamba/ Cole Anthony/ Harris

Chicago Trade:
VanVleet/ Flynn/ Birch
for
Caruso/ Patrick Williams/ White

Dallas Trade
VanVleet/Birch/Flynn
for
Bertans/Powell/Green

lets go

In Masai we trust

[Dr Hannibal Lecter]

This is before Clippers game, December 26th..I want u 2 read this s%$$, tell me I'm not right. This guy is F^$$*ggg delusional..are u serious guy....this dude thinks his a franchise player...LOL..
This is why keep saying it, this guy will kill Raptors Franchise, it's always about him..me,me,me..u know what sign him, than u can c this bulls&^% unfold..unbelievable.

Just scroll down to Nameless 23 comments..

William Lou on Twitter: "I asked Fred VanVleet at practice today about adapting to a new role this season:

https://t.co/ZZSKvsVxnn" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/william_lou

[MixxAOR]

this snake is having shit season calls it a sacrifice for the team which is a lie and expects a max for a shit season he's having