We need a ayton/gobert type. Watching Utah they remind me of Toronto but with an anchor. I think utah shoots the most threes but they’re also one of the top rebounding teams. Thats a good mix. Birch has been solid and I know theres no ayton/gobert types just floating around but ya an anchor at C and a wing that can slash and create his shot and we’re off to the races. I hope we can parlay fred into turner type move and keep our pick for a dynamic wing
I think if Gobert hadn't signed an extension he would have been the PERFECT person to add to this mix.
This is another reason why Mobley would be perfect.
Fred into turner could happen. I think its a bit of an overpay unless you get the right draft pick. Like you would need to keep lowry and draft green or something of that nature.... I don't know if we need to give that up to get him. I think we can get him given that they have a glut at center and are looking to shore up some depth plus turner is injury prone. We should be able to give up boucher and filler and the two second rounders.
Guarantee Baynes, Hood and Boucher's contracts. Trade all three for Horford and #18. Only works if Rockets keep their top 4 pick, otherwise OKC gets that pick, and Houston gets Miami's.
OKC saves 1 year of Horford's contract. They have a guy that's friends with Dort, and is a fellow Canadian to Shai. That's pretty good to give up the 18th pick in a draft.
We get a second option in the first round. We can try to use that to move up in the draft if we don't get a top 4.
Downside is we don't have cap space even if Lowry walks. And if Lowry comes back we likely won't have a mid-level either since we'll be close to a tax team. Might have to manage Kyle's contract to get under it.
A way to use our cap space to get a bad contract and a pick.. but have that bad contract be semi functional. Horford's last year is partially guaranteed, although still high ($14.5M guarantee).
Everytime I watch Mann's highlights, I come away impressed. Most mocks have Giddey and Wagner and Kispert and Jalen Johnson ranked higher than him. How?
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Everytime I watch Mann's highlights, I come away impressed. Most mocks have Giddey and Wagner and Kispert and Jalen Johnson ranked higher than him. How?
Mann got absolutely neutralized by Springer and Johnson against Tennessee. Like absolutely shut down. Not a good look.
Everytime I watch Mann's highlights, I come away impressed. Most mocks have Giddey and Wagner and Kispert and Jalen Johnson ranked higher than him. How?
Yeah his shot making is incredible but you have to watch some his scouting reports. The defence is beyond terrible. He literally slides out of the way when someone drives at him.
Everytime I watch Mann's highlights, I come away impressed. Most mocks have Giddey and Wagner and Kispert and Jalen Johnson ranked higher than him. How?
Because he doesn't play defense at all, his handles are sloppy, his first step isn't particularly good and he's not an explosive finisher.
Basically, he's a somewhat better Jimmer Fredette right now. He might be able to play NBA ball if he doesn't have Jimmer's terrible attitude and learns to cover his weaknesses, but he's probably not going to be a walking bucket in the NBA like in college.
I do not want Russ... his contract is not what will be good for this team. He also just doesn't work on this team.... Dame is the only guy that I would say sure.... VanVleet, and 3 picks sure. I doubt Dame leaves though or wants out.
Dame isn't going anywhere. Portland is far more likely to trade CJ, who is, let's be honest, redundant on the Blazers and who would have a lot of value to a lot of teams. They trade CJ for a good defensive center and a decent two-way player and the Blazers get much scarier in a hurry.
Lavine is expiring, so he could be available, and he fits that 4th quarter shot creator role we desperately need to win those close games. Build a package around FVV & picks and re-sign Lowry.
If you're trading away a player of FVV's tier (former Sixth Man of the Year runner-up, got a vote for Finals MVP, can absolutely start on a serious title contender), you need to be getting back a superstar or you're losing the trade, especially if you're throwing in picks to sweeten the deal. Zach Lavine is a good player, but he's not a superstar.
Dame isn't going anywhere. Portland is far more likely to trade CJ, who is, let's be honest, redundant on the Blazers and who would have a lot of value to a lot of teams. They trade CJ for a good defensive center and a decent two-way player and the Blazers get much scarier in a hurry.
If you're trading away a player of FVV's tier (former Sixth Man of the Year runner-up, got a vote for Finals MVP, can absolutely start on a serious title contender), you need to be getting back a superstar or you're losing the trade, especially if you're throwing in picks to sweeten the deal. Zach Lavine is a good player, but he's not a superstar.
yeah I agree CJ is likely the dude who they trade.. .but I don't think he fits on this team.... but yeah ... I also don't like Zach
Because he doesn't play defense at all, his handles are sloppy, his first step isn't particularly good and he's not an explosive finisher.
Basically, he's a somewhat better Jimmer Fredette right now. He might be able to play NBA ball if he doesn't have Jimmer's terrible attitude and learns to cover his weaknesses, but he's probably not going to be a walking bucket in the NBA like in college.
Fredette is a pretty poor comparison. Fredette is a PG - an undersized one. And the only thing that Fredette does well is shoot.
Mann is 6'5(perfect size for a SG), he can shoot, he can handle the ball and he can create his own shot. He's a 3 level scorer. Can his offensive game translate to the NBA? I don't know. But if it does then that's a heck of a player.
As for his defense, who cares? defense can be coached and taught.
Zach Lavine doesn't play defence ... and doesn't have that ability to put us over the top. You aren't trading siakam for him because that would be bad.. I also wouldn't trade for a start who has one year left. I want someone with two. So no thanks.
That is why Siakam for Harden was enticing...it gave us an opportunity to get someone who was under contract for more than a year. Why are we blowing our hole load on a guy who isn't a superstar and who is going to test free agency... to me I would keep the pick. No thanks. If we end up blowing up this team in a year or two at least we would still have the pick and OG. Chicago also isn't going to trade Lavine unless he says straight up he wants out. I don't see that happening. There isn't any guarantee he would stay beyond a year so rather than sign him to what will likely be at least a max and potentially a supermax I would say no thanks. Not saying portland does it but if it was for Dame... sure. As long as you keep OG and Siakam. Otherwise no. Heck no.
It isn't just you but it seems like everyone wants us to go and grab someone who is in their 30's just for the sake of it when really we have a good team and don't need to gamble on our future again. I just don't see it getting us past Brooklyn and if that is the case then why are we going for a player just for a shake up. We don't always need to shake things up just for the sake of it. That's why JV for Gasol plus picks was amazing. We traded JV who is balling out for an upgrade and vet presence, and a piece that would improve both our offense and defence through basketball IQ. Lavine isn't Booker. He also isn't a great playmaker. He is a shot creator. Think of a more consistent Gary Trent.
Also multiple leg injuries scares me.
I would also say no to Jimmy before anyone brings it up.
Devin Booker, Trae Young & John Collins headline this list. Unlike our treasure trove of 2-way, defensive minded players.... those guys are all in the playoffs and doing well.
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