Everything Trade Chatter

[S.R.]

Fair enough. I'll file this back and forth in the "agree to disagree" section. Lol

Great idea. Really breaks me up to see our 2 Keons fight.

[special1]

Great idea. Really breaks me up to see our 2 Keons fight.

Probably a better idea to let them fight.....A worse idea would be to have them meet up for some drinks!

I feel bad now....That wasn't funny at all.

[special1]

Wait, weren't you the guy making comparisons using ranking in DRPM? Whiteside ranks 37th in DRPM this year.

Lucas Nogueira is 7th on the list. Jakob Poeltl is 26th on the list. I couldn't find JV.....Where the heck is he?

[lewro]

65/69

[planetmars]

CoJo is 430 out of 437... that's your problem right there. He was brought in for his defense, and he's 430 out of 437 guys in DRPM. Yikes!

#TradeCoJo

[Lupe]

Wait, weren't you the guy making comparisons using ranking in DRPM? Whiteside ranks 37th in DRPM this year.

10th last year and 26th the year before. Interestingly enough one spot different than biyombo in both years. So we're talking about similar defensive impact with better size, better rebounding, better offense and the ability to run pick and roll as well as JV (94th percentile as the roll man last year when he had Wade and dragic like DeMar and Kyle for jv)

[golden]

CoJo is 430 out of 437... that's your problem right there. He was brought in for his defense, and he's 430 out of 437 guys in DRPM. Yikes!

#TradeCoJo

Good lord. CoJo has become a homeless man's Lou Williams. Just awful.

[KeonClark]

Good lord. CoJo has become a homeless man's Lou Williams. Just awful.

Why do I keep seeing cojo compared to lou williams? Theyre VERY different players

[golden]

Why do I keep seeing cojo compared to lou williams? Theyre VERY different players

Yes, I know. But what CoJo has morphed into this season, which is a ball-dominant, non-passing, no-defense 6th man is somewhat similar to stereotypical Lou Will.

[A.I]

Why do I keep seeing cojo compared to lou williams? Theyre VERY different players

Agreed. One shoots at the end of the shot clock and the other dribbles for the whole 24.

[tDotted]

Why do I keep seeing cojo compared to lou williams? Theyre VERY different players

Short SGs. Frequently gets last shot for the team in the first 3 quarters. All ISO and no defense. Hence, Lou Will.

[DanH]

10th last year and 26th the year before. Interestingly enough one spot different than biyombo in both years. So we're talking about similar defensive impact with better size, better rebounding, better offense and the ability to run pick and roll as well as JV (94th percentile as the roll man last year when he had Wade and dragic like DeMar and Kyle for jv)

I'm absolutely not arguing Whiteside is bad defensively. I'm reinforcing my earlier point about how unreliable small samples of impact stats are. I just found it odd that you would want him when you are so sure Kanter and JV are similar defensively based just on this year's rankings, when purely based on this year's rankings you probably shouldn't want him (and you should, he's one of the few C's in the league it might be worthwhile changing styles to fit instead of JV).

[MACK11]

Agreed. One shoots at the end of the shot clock and the other dribbles for the whole 24.

And still doesn't know how to manage the damn clock at the end of quarters. I've never seen another player completely mess up at the end of quarters like Cory does.

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[S.R.]

And still doesn't know how to manage the damn clock at the end of quarters. I've never seen another player completely mess up at the end of quarters like Cory does.

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CoJo's a good player, I'm hoping he comes out of this funk, but he's probably suffered the most from Toronto's coaching/offensive approach. CoJo looked much better when he first got here and was still playing the way the Spurs taught him. They spent years developing him. Casey and CoJo have made multiple comments about Toronto coaching him into looking for his shot (a.k.a. Lowry/DeRozan-light) and the version of CoJo playing this way is definitely a worse version of CoJo.

All that said, he's getting a lot of flak for a backup PG. He's still a more talented baller than a lot of teams' backup PG's.

[The Great One]

JV + Ross for Whiteside.