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McRealistic wrote: View PostHow are you going to Use Gasol and JV together ? Will you bring JV off the bench ?
Although the value you would get from having two rim protectors on the floor is quite exciting lol
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JawsGT wrote: View PostEspecially when you already have another one on the roster And I'm much more interested in Wright than Nelson and Augustine types.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI'd trade JV for Marc any day of the week.. despite their age differences. Marc fits nicely with Lowry's window too. Marc appears to be healthy (finally) as well. *Knock on wood*
Conley and Marc are tight though.. he'd be pretty ticked if Memphis traded Marc away.
Gasol would look awful defensively if we asked him to play the role JV is playing now. He's also a pretty unspectacular rebounder. And would we use him enough and correctly to take advantage of his post game and passing ability?
I think as things stand there are very few trades that make sense for the Raps. Probably best to hang on to the young pieces we have. Not sure any trade makes us compete against Lebron. Need him to get injured, and we're easily talented enough to beat Cleveland if he does. And not sure we'd ever beat GSW, or any contender really, as long as we have a coach who pretty much always reacts to match up with the opponent instead of forcing them to match up to us in some way.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI'd trade JV for Marc any day of the week.. despite their age differences. Marc fits nicely with Lowry's window too. Marc appears to be healthy (finally) as well. *Knock on wood*
Conley and Marc are tight though.. he'd be pretty ticked if Memphis traded Marc away.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostMention this last year got laughed off the forum.
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rocwell wrote: View PostHonestly, I don't really like JV straight up for Marc. I know we'd get better.... But for how long? We should only trade JV for... um.. DMC. Just my 2 cents. Masai will make it happen IMO cuz this team needs to make a move soon.
Anything else is not even close to a black and white choice. DMC is a problem child. Definitely not worth shedding assets for IMO. Every time i see him play i want him less, regardless of what the trade would look like (ie even if it didn't involve JV).
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostThe only C in the league it makes indisputable sense to trade JV for is KAT. That kid could easily become the best player of his generation.
Anything else is not even close to a black and white choice. DMC is a problem child. Definitely not worth shedding assets for IMO. Every time i see him play i want him less, regardless of what the trade would look like (ie even if it didn't involve JV).
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostYou know our D would likely not get any better? You know our O has so far not been catered to playing around a post pivot at all?
Gasol would look awful defensively if we asked him to play the role JV is playing now. He's also a pretty unspectacular rebounder. And would we use him enough and correctly to take advantage of his post game and passing ability?
I think as things stand there are very few trades that make sense for the Raps. Probably best to hang on to the young pieces we have. Not sure any trade makes us compete against Lebron. Need him to get injured, and we're easily talented enough to beat Cleveland if he does. And not sure we'd ever beat GSW, or any contender really, as long as we have a coach who pretty much always reacts to match up with the opponent instead of forcing them to match up to us in some way.
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And if (or when I guess) DD and KL start sh!tting the bed in the playoffs, Gasol can put the team on his shoulders and help us win a round or two like JV did last year.
Ultimately I don't think it would happen.. Memphis loves the Conley/Gasol pairing and just gave Conley a ridiculous amount of money.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostThe only C in the league it makes indisputable sense to trade JV for is KAT. That kid could easily become the best player of his generation.
Anything else is not even close to a black and white choice. DMC is a problem child. Definitely not worth shedding assets for IMO. Every time i see him play i want him less, regardless of what the trade would look like (ie even if it didn't involve JV).
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planetmars wrote: View PostMarc has this intelligence behind him.. that even if he's an after thought on offense he can be used to pass the ball or play smart defense against even teams that go small like Cleveland. He may not help us get past the Cavs, but he'd put us in a better position than JV I think.
And if (or when I guess) DD and KL start sh!tting the bed in the playoffs, Gasol can put the team on his shoulders and help us win a round or two like JV did last year.
Ultimately I don't think it would happen.. Memphis loves the Conley/Gasol pairing and just gave Conley a ridiculous amount of money.
And smarts won't matter if Gasol is forced to come up and be an aggressive help defender on the high screen and roll. I don't remember where it was, but i read an article on how teams defend the p'n'r and how Memphis depends a lot on not having to force Gasol and Randolph to go out very far because if they do, they're completely fucked. They've had Conly and Allen defending the point of attack and that helps a lot. It's a big reason why Cojo is such a key piece for us.
Gasol cannot defend in space, which is exactly what everyone is complaining about with JV. Very few Cs can, and it simply cannot be the factor that makes or breaks your D.
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