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golden wrote: View Post
Some GMs don’t want players, they just want first round picks ... even garbage picks and swaps. It’s become the new currency for acquiring superstars, in non star-for-star trades. Those are picks that GMs accepted in return for superstars. So if a team wants picks instead of OG, we could flip him or another player on our roster to get those picks.
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G__Deane wrote: View Post
IF?
Have you seen any of his recent comments? Dude is fed up and unfortunately wants to go to a winner.
NBA stars suck
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A.I wrote: View Post
Maybe I'm wrong, but I read it as he wants to go to a team that can give him the winning situation/culture he wants, not team up with a superstar.
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1/ lebron, AD
2/ Kawhi, PG
3/ Durant, Harden , Kyrie
4/ Giannis, Middleton
5/ Jokic, Murray
6/ Tatum, Walker, Brown, Smart
7/ Embiid, Simmons
8/ Jimmy Buckets, Bam
9/ Doncic, Zinger
10/ Mitchell, Gober, Conley
You generally need at least two stars or a superstar and a star to grab home court and show well in the post season (never mind win it all)
Beal, Siakam, FVV what number does it land us in this group above? Right now we're not in it....and don't wimp out and say"who did we trade for Beal?"
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
yeah i'd way rather have OG.. his defence is so good and without him / siakam... our defensive floor falls down very quickly... lowry is good on defence but as he gets older it will continue to slowly fall down... OG defensively will be key to any chip in the future.
Its a year of finding cheap talent and developing the core - so far I really like OG and Fred, Siakam leaves a lot to be desired. Keep developing fringe rotation guys like TD, Yuta, Bembry, Flynn etc. and see what you have come the off season. I dont think Lowry nets a great return, but maybe Powell can. Slipping into the playin game isnt the end of the world, historically a good spot to pick, makes for a fun-ish season and keeps some meaningful minutes for guys to develop.
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G__Deane wrote: View PostRaps have one just one game against a team over .500?
Wasn't it last year that they had a decidedly bad record against playoff teams or was it the year before the chip??
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Yeesh you guys are huge Beal fans. He's good. But he's not a guy you sell out a young core for. He's a guy you add to your young core.
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G__Deane wrote: View PostRaps have one just one game against a team over .500?
Wasn't it last year that they had a decidedly bad record against playoff teams or was it the year before the chip??
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DanH wrote: View PostYeesh you guys are huge Beal fans. He's good. But he's not a guy you sell out a young core for. He's a guy you add to your young core.
Is Beal a top 15 player? Because you're not winning jack without one.
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G__Deane wrote: View Post
When's the next time you could even dream of adding an NBA scoring leader to the roster? Yes, you want to add him to Siakam, FVV and OG if possible by somehow moving some combination of Lowry, Norm, McCaw; anyone but the core.
Is Beal a top 15 player? Because you're not winning jack without one.
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Yeah Beal is a good scorer, a bit hard to peg. He used to play off John Wall more but has stepped up the past 2 seasons with no one else on the roster. But who is he once he joins better players? A nice 22 ppg good player? He didn't used to lead the league in anything.
I do think it's pretty telling that in the past couple months Raptors fans have gone from Giannis > Harden > Beal. At some point you have to realize you're just getting desperate for whoever appears to be available and that may not be a good thing to do. Like trading for Drummond, for example."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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